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Final Fantasy 12 (PS2) Discussion

Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:44 pm
What is the gaming board's thoughts on this game? I will preface that I have not played this game in 8 years.

1. Will this game ever receive a PS2 classic re-release on the PSN or HD remaster? Seems like it gets overlooked for what was a great game, as far as I know it has never even been recreated in any way since 2006 (where other less-good FF games have been revisited or sequel'd). Obviously this is all speculation but it seems like it would sell if they put it out there again.

2. Where do we rank this game in the series? Easily better than PS3 iterations, but behind FF 6-9.

3. Do we like the active battle system? It was quite a leap from turn-based strategies of the past, but I think it would hold up well by today's standards.

4. The atmosphere of the game definitely had an eerie feel, although I admit I don't remember the storyline too vividly. I do remember the main character had a Cloud-ish haircut. I remember some sky pirates and shite... and there was a signing moogle troupe. There was also a really annoying sewer dungeon I got lost in for 8 hours or so
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:11 pm to
the maps and cities were too big. the battle system sucked. the periodic table of leveling thing was dumb. I only vaguely remember the story and barely remember any of the characters. XII sucked.
Posted by musick
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:21 pm to
1. Probably, only because SE likes to milk every possible FF title there is/was. It probably will be next considering they did X, and XI is an online game. I'd rather see IX as a remaster but they havent done anything with the PSOne games because of the design nature, so XII looks like next up when SE gets desperate for a quick payday.

2. I liked XIII better. (I know I'm the miniority) I put XII behind VIII, VIII being slightly better IMO.

3. Meh, it was different, and was broken. Nice attempt at change though, obviously inspired buy MMORPGS. I didnt like it.

4. Not sure where the question is here. The story/feel was hot-garbage though. The playable characters are forgettable.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:31 pm to
It's been a while for me but I remember the game began to drag on and the story was useless so I just stopped playing.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:35 pm to
It's like after FF7, every JRPG developer tried to see who could develop the most convoluted leveling system.
Posted by Chimlim
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:09 pm to
Looks like I'm in the minority but I loved XII. I thought the battle system was awesome, at first it was meh, but as you kept playing there was so much that you could do.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

1. Probably, only because SE likes to milk every possible FF title there is/was. It probably will be next considering they did X, and XI is an online game. I'd rather see IX as a remaster but they havent done anything with the PSOne games because of the design nature, so XII looks like next up when SE gets desperate for a quick payday.


They could definitely take my nostalgia money. I think the game suffered from being close to the end of the PS2 gen where everyone was fixated on PS3 as well.

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2. I liked XIII better. (I know I'm the miniority) I put XII behind VIII, VIII being slightly better IMO.


Probably not too far of a stretch - 13 is very meh for me because it was so linear. I did like the music tho.

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3. Meh, it was different, and was broken. Nice attempt at change though, obviously inspired buy MMORPGS. I didnt like it.


I don't remember it being broken, although you could definitely set it up for doing degenerate and cheap things (gambits?)

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4. Not sure where the question is here. The story/feel was hot-garbage though. The playable characters are forgettable.


It wasn't a question, just a talking point. I do agree it was forgettable and I don't even remember the villain
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 6:05 am to
It was ok. Bosch should have been the main character, and I think was before Square changed it due to Japan having the weird obsession with feminine male leads.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:14 pm to
I'm sure it will get an HD remake eventually. While it definitely wasn't my favorite RPG, I enjoyed playing while following the Brady strategy guide.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:19 pm to
I would be willing to try it again on vita
Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
4104 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:23 pm to
This! Just put it on PSN.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:31 pm to
I understand licensing isn't always as simple as we make it but that's the only reason not to open up every ps1 and ps2 game on the vita library.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 12:50 am to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:36 am to
The Vayne/Venat fight at the end seemed to never end...I think you had to fight 6 different iterations of him back to back(?)
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80956 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:37 am to
quote:

It was ok. Bosch should have been the main character, and I think was before Square changed it due to Japan having the weird obsession with feminine male leads.


I thought Balthier was the main character. After all, he's "the leading man".
Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
4104 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 12:18 pm to
If it comes the vita is going to get screwed.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 12:22 pm to
I agree, I don't think Square will put much into the vita again.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39346 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 3:16 pm to
The fighting system was great. Once you set all your gambits you almost didn't have to do anything else. I remember the Gilgamesh fight being especially fun.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14515 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:46 pm to
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I agree, I don't think Square will put much into the vita again.


They announced the new Dragon Quest Heroes and DQ Builders are both on Vita. There's still some hope.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:08 pm to
The heroes coming in October? I thought that was just ps4.
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