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LSU Improvements Needed Other Than Just QB Play
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:12 am
I've watched several of last year's games recently with a lot more attention to detail the second time around. Just wanted to see everyone elses' take on the true areas where LSU needs to improve, besides obviously quarterback. Here are a couple of things I've noticed:
1. Play calling
There's always a lot of criticism given to the qb about getting the play off. The problem is obvious when the qb is looking toward the sideline frustrated, and as if almost pleading for some direction. This seemed to be an ongoing problem throughout the season, and has been the cause of many a time out or delay of game. When they pan to Les, he's usually just watching and waiting, so it seems that Cam is the one making the decision. Shouldn't this be almost instant, given the fact that there are several coaches in the booth analyzing the defense?
2. Getting the snap off in a hurry
I know this is a problem in many loud stadiums, but some kind of improvement could be made on communication with the center. Hopefully another year of experience has led to improvement in communication and attention/urgency regarding the play clock.
Now go ahead and criticize my post, grammar, or tell me how it was too long. I'm not a coach or football expert of any kind, but I did play for some coaches that were very detail oriented and expected smart play.
I enjoy the actual football conversations on here, as many of you have a lot of insight and information, and am damn glad the off season is almost over.
1. Play calling
There's always a lot of criticism given to the qb about getting the play off. The problem is obvious when the qb is looking toward the sideline frustrated, and as if almost pleading for some direction. This seemed to be an ongoing problem throughout the season, and has been the cause of many a time out or delay of game. When they pan to Les, he's usually just watching and waiting, so it seems that Cam is the one making the decision. Shouldn't this be almost instant, given the fact that there are several coaches in the booth analyzing the defense?
2. Getting the snap off in a hurry
I know this is a problem in many loud stadiums, but some kind of improvement could be made on communication with the center. Hopefully another year of experience has led to improvement in communication and attention/urgency regarding the play clock.
Now go ahead and criticize my post, grammar, or tell me how it was too long. I'm not a coach or football expert of any kind, but I did play for some coaches that were very detail oriented and expected smart play.
I enjoy the actual football conversations on here, as many of you have a lot of insight and information, and am damn glad the off season is almost over.
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:14 am to SCwTiger
Ties into QB play but we can't be afraid to attack the middle of the field in the passing game.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:31 am to SCwTiger
Based on your descriptions, I can't tell how or why these are considered separate things..
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There's always a lot of criticism given to the qb about getting the play off.
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Hopefully another year of experience has led to improvement in communication and attention/urgency regarding the play clock.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:35 am to SCwTiger
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1. Play calling
good luck with that... We look unbeatable with a wide-open new scheme against A&M, then revert back to boring predictable for Notre Dame.
Retarded at best.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 11:36 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:15 pm to SCwTiger
D-Line play needs to improve. they need to generate pressure on the QB to help out the DBs. Last year our D-Line didn't seem to generate much pressure on the QB without having LBs or DBs blitzing.
In years past our D-Lines could generate a good push on the pocket without having to rely on blitzing. However I do realize we had some extremely good Players that could change the game by themselves, Glenn Dorsey, Drake Nevis, Sam Montgomery, etc.
In years past our D-Lines could generate a good push on the pocket without having to rely on blitzing. However I do realize we had some extremely good Players that could change the game by themselves, Glenn Dorsey, Drake Nevis, Sam Montgomery, etc.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:01 pm to SCwTiger
Possibly the two least impactful improvements tgat could be made. It really is mind boggling that with the entirety of the offseason, these are the assessments
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:02 pm to SCwTiger
I think DL play/Sacks is the only area we HAVE to improve on.
The things you mention are minor, in my opinion, and probably both come from the fact that we had a young (and bad) QB.
If the QB this year is serviceable and accounts for.... say... 20 TDs. With a middle of the pack SEC completion percentage.. AND we get into the high 20s/low 30s as far as sacks, we win the West.
The things you mention are minor, in my opinion, and probably both come from the fact that we had a young (and bad) QB.
If the QB this year is serviceable and accounts for.... say... 20 TDs. With a middle of the pack SEC completion percentage.. AND we get into the high 20s/low 30s as far as sacks, we win the West.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:27 pm to SCwTiger
Pass rush
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:47 pm to SCwTiger
all of what you post is correct but you left out many, many other improvements that need to happen.
1. creative play calling
2. stop it with trying to run the same thing over and over again (see #1)
3. too much reliance on the run (see #1 and #2)
4. lack of an attack philosophy (settling for FG's, playing it safe)
5. extremely poor use of the clock and timeouts
6. more misdirection and deception in play calling, most people, even me, can call the plays before they even happen
I'm sure there are many more that other people will offer up.
1. creative play calling
2. stop it with trying to run the same thing over and over again (see #1)
3. too much reliance on the run (see #1 and #2)
4. lack of an attack philosophy (settling for FG's, playing it safe)
5. extremely poor use of the clock and timeouts
6. more misdirection and deception in play calling, most people, even me, can call the plays before they even happen
I'm sure there are many more that other people will offer up.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:47 pm to SCwTiger
quote:
I've watched several of last year's games recently with a lot more attention to detail the second time around. Just wanted to see everyone elses' take on the true areas where LSU needs to improve, besides obviously quarterback. Here are a couple of things I've noticed:
1. Play calling
There's always a lot of criticism given to the qb about getting the play off. The problem is obvious when the qb is looking toward the sideline frustrated, and as if almost pleading for some direction. This seemed to be an ongoing problem throughout the season, and has been the cause of many a time out or delay of game. When they pan to Les, he's usually just watching and waiting, so it seems that Cam is the one making the decision. Shouldn't this be almost instant, given the fact that there are several coaches in the booth analyzing the defense?
2. Getting the snap off in a hurry
I know this is a problem in many loud stadiums, but some kind of improvement could be made on communication with the center. Hopefully another year of experience has led to improvement in communication and attention/urgency regarding the play clock.
Now go ahead and criticize my post, grammar, or tell me how it was too long. I'm not a coach or football expert of any kind, but I did play for some coaches that were very detail oriented and expected smart play.
I enjoy the actual football conversations on here, as many of you have a lot of insight and information, and am damn glad the off season is almost over.
the two things you listed here, as well as what everyone else has listed can be improved with one word
execution
it's time for the execution of the players to quit being pointed out
the execution from the coaches box to the sideline needs to get better. it needs to improve more than the on the field execution does.
delay of game after time outs, punts, kickoffs and penalties. QB's begging for a play while the clock ticks past 10 seconds.
execution on the field will improve when the players are put in a situation to execute.
doesn't matter if LSU only uses 12 different plays all year, or if the fans have a good idea of what play is coming.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:39 am to SCwTiger
It would be nice to see Jennings/Harris check down to the TE's a lot more, but that comes down to play calling, as well. Also, we certainly need to see a more consistent and effective pass rush. Hopefully, Steele's scheme(s) can provide this. In a nutshell: better offensive play calling and more pressure on opposing QB's.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:41 pm to SCwTiger
Put teams away when we have a lead.
Maybe no 3rd and Chavis will help this.
And it's not just late in the 4th qtr but end of 1st halves also.
Score TOUCHDOWNS in the red zone
Don't clip on every MFing (&^%%^#^#$%^$^% punt or kickoff return...
Maybe no 3rd and Chavis will help this.
And it's not just late in the 4th qtr but end of 1st halves also.
Score TOUCHDOWNS in the red zone
Don't clip on every MFing (&^%%^#^#$%^$^% punt or kickoff return...
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:28 am to SCwTiger
Over under on delay of game penalties after a timeout set at 2.5
I'm taking the over.
I'm taking the over.
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