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re: Which Hallman Era QB could lead the current offense?

Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:29 pm to
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Did you play on those teams?


yup...who is your cousin? (initals or first initial and position and i'll figure it out) a lot of solid folks on those teams...

eta..my first year was Archer, graduated when CH was fired
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 3:34 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:41 pm to
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yup...who is your cousin? (initals or first initial and position and i'll figure it out) a lot of solid folks on those teams...

eta..my first year was Archer, graduated when CH was fired
You are the exact same age.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101662 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:46 pm to
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yup...who is your cousin? (initals or first initial and position and i'll figure it out) a lot of solid folks on those teams...

eta..my first year was Archer, graduated when CH was fired


I've always thought poor souls like you deserve a special commendation from LSU.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45197 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:48 pm to
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chad had the mentality, dedication and smarts to run any offense, lack of athleticism would have been overshadowed by the former


I have to disagree a bit here. Loup wasn't going to be a wishbone QB but he was plenty athletic enough.

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Jamie had the all pro cannon but the mentality of a 18 yr old immature kid, was not really a student of the game and him & hallman did not like each other


I will have to ask about this but it doesn't sound right. I know the upper classmen were pissed that Hallman basically handed the job to Howard. ( At that time it could have been pressure from outside the program )

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loup commanded the respect of the O including the line, howard did not.


This is absolutely true, the team as a whole respected and supported Loup.

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if not for the AU game that season and CH career at LSU would have gone very different


I don't know if I would go that far. Their were a lot of things going on behind the scenes that a lot don't know. Most have heard about Curly banging his secretary but most don't know he was messing with some coeds also. Even if some of the breaks would have went LSU's way I still think he would have failed.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101662 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:50 pm to
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chad had the mentality, dedication and smarts to run any offense, lack of athleticism would have been overshadowed by the former


I have to disagree a bit here. Loup wasn't going to be a wishbone QB but he was plenty athletic enough.


The fact that I was able to sack him in 7th grade probably says otherwise.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:51 pm to
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lsupride87
chad was hilarious...I remember right in the middle of a miss st game, he jogged off the field, stood right beside for a few mins chatting about game...and drops 'have you studied for our test yet' (we had a QBA or some math bs class together) and I was like...


he was a multi tasker...

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:53 pm to
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chad was hilarious...I remember right in the middle of a miss st game, he jogged off the field, stood right beside for a few mins chatting about game...and drops 'have you studied for our test yet' (we had a QBA or some math bs class together) and I was like...


he was a multi tasker..
Well his studying sure as hell paid off Some of his stories about Curley though make my blood boil. Like the one in a practice before a game he told the linebacker to tackle him in practice and hit the shite out of him. I mean what kind of coach does that shite?
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:54 pm to
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I've always thought poor souls like you deserve a special commendation from LSU.
no shite...all we wanted was to go to a bowl game, and dinardo walks in and goes to indy bowl...I was like
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 3:55 pm to
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no shite...all we wanted was to go to a bowl game, and dinardo walks in and goes to indy bowl...I was like
That Arky game was painful Chad's last year. Had a great game and chance to become bowl eligible but just couldnt quite pull it out
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:03 pm to
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That Arky game was painful Chad's last year
one of my saddest memories


edit...I gotta bolt..if you want to chat

<<<<<@gmail
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 4:04 pm
Posted by RemDog
Metairie, Louisiana
Member since May 2013
7 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:40 pm to
Do I know you LSURoadie?
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 4:42 pm
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 5:54 pm to
Don't really disagree w/anything you said, but I don't understand the "if then" in your last paragraph.

What would have gone differently? Curley Hallmans career? LSU football in general?

What caused the change? The Auburn game? Or did Curleys career cause (amongst other bad things) cause shite "down the road?"

Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68484 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:17 pm to
What were curley's methods?

Didn't he have them do three a days in the summer?
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11036 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:26 pm to
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Howard. He wasn't calling the plays against Auburn.
Lynn Amedee.

BTW, based on what we've seen so far, any of the Hallman QB's would be an improvement........
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:49 pm to
Favre
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:56 pm to
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What would have gone differently? Curley Hallmans career? LSU football in general?


the AU game was the water shed moment in CH's career in BR. at really no point in ch's time did LSU have the talent to compete in the SEC sans '94. '94 was different and the team felt it. there was speed, enough talent to win and most importantly, PB was the new DC. PB was/is a damn good fb coach, and he had the D playing aggressive, fast and confident fb. the team felt it. we played atm tough, ranked in top 20 I believe and pretty much dominated msu. CH and PB saved all motivational speeches their entire career for this one game...the team was ready to kill someone...kind of the same feeling when we beat uga in '03.

if we had won that game, I have every confidence we would have won 7 maybe 8 games, just on our D alone. CH would have kept his job and con't to recruit...which he and staff did very well. well, we all know what happened, the team fell apart, jh lost all confidence and it was all downhill. it was very demoralizing to say the least.

people laugh when I tell them that, but ch could've had a little nicer career here if not for that one game.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31926 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:13 pm to
Hudson was a fricking disaster all the way around. Outside of him standing up to Dale Brown the night Shaq slapped Anthony Marshall (basketball/football dorm brawl), he wasnt worth a damn.

on topic: Chad Loup all day long........oh, and frick George Haffner.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:19 pm to
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George Haffner
another coach made off of one player
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:17 pm to
Aside from Joe Dean being a cheap arse, there was this perception that Curley made Brett Farve. What everyone quickly learned (other than Hallman) was that Farve actually made Hallman.

As to the Auburn game, I still remember Phil Bennett going ballistic on Hallman on the interceptions. There was a point on the sidelines that he exploded on Hallman and his lips could easily be read ("What the frick are you doing?")

Yeah, Bennett was and is a good coach.

Haffner on the other hand, hell Georgia broke out the best wine, cheese, and cavier when he left.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45197 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:17 pm to
The 1992 season was similar not saying ya"ll were close to winning the SEC but no way hell that team should have been 2-9. The Auburn game was the turning point IMO.
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