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re: Video of suspended FSU QB punching a girl
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:21 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:21 pm to PrimeTime Money
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That's not what I asked. Would you feel the same way if it was a smaller guy instead of a girl?
Doesnt matter.. It was a girl.. A chubby one but still a girl.. You dont hit a woman in 99.99 percent of situations and this clearly wasnt that.01
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:22 pm to The Sad Banana
quote:I mean I agree. He slapped/punched the shite out of her either way. Some here took me using the word slap to assume I mean he just gave her a tap. I used the word slap because it simply looks like an open hand to me
A slap doesn't make it better. It's still bad.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:23 pm to TROLA
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You dont hit a woman in 99.99 percent of situations and this clearly wasnt that
Agreed. But based on the video he shouldn't be kicked off. He's facing a battery charge and is already suspended.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:23 pm to LNCHBOX
What threat was she really to him? Fighting is never the answer to anything whether it's with a male or female, period. The fact that it was a girl that posed ZERO real threat to his safety is just cherry on top. I don't care if you think it's sexist or not. The fact that you think it is ok to hit a female in a situation like that is pathetic.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:25 pm to rlebl39
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What threat was she really to him?
What does it matter?
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Fighting is never the answer to anything whether it's with a male or female, period.
Someone should have told the girl that instigated this situation that.
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The fact that you think it is ok to hit a female in a situation like that is pathetic.
Link to me saying it's OK.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:26 pm to rlebl39
quote:Me and LNCH arent saying it is ok. We would both disown our sons for it. But legally this video is very good for him and FSU
What threat was she really to him? Fighting is never the answer to anything whether it's with a male or female, period. The fact that it was a girl that posed ZERO real threat to his safety is just cherry on top. I don't care if you think it's sexist or not. The fact that you think it is ok to hit a female in a situation like that is pathetic.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:26 pm to TheOcean
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Agreed. But based on the video he shouldn't be kicked off. He's facing a battery charge and is already suspended.
I wont say whether Im in the camp of dismissal because so many factors go into that type of call.. Id probably lean towards 1 year suspension with a chance to earn his way back.. I just have a real problem with a man laying hands on a woman.. It shows a complete lack of self control.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:27 pm to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:28 pm to fatheadgator
If Hope Solo gets a pass. He should too.
Also was the chick charged with the same crime?
Also was the chick charged with the same crime?
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:28 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Do I need to be? It is clear is day now he was punched first by the woman
You a lawyer?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:28 pm to lsupride87
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Me and LYNCH arent saying it is ok.
I'm pretty far from a racist may want to edit my name.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:29 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:My bad
I'm pretty far from a racist may want to edit my name.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:29 pm to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:30 pm to LNCHBOX
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What does it matter?
That he could have defended himself in literally any other way than hitting her.
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Someone should have told the girl that instigated this situation that.
Again, he could have defended himself in any other way than hitting her. She was 100% wrong for punching him, that still does not justify him hitting her.
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Link to me saying it's OK.
This whole thread of you defending him and talking about girls who instigate deserve what comes to them.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I saw it as him being a dickbag and forcing his way up to the bar while slowly shoving everyone out of the way.
That's how I saw it as well. Bigger guys always try to do this at the bar if it's crowded.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:31 pm to TROLA
quote:Why? Women can't defend themselves?
Doesnt matter.. It was a girl.. A chubby one but still a girl.. You dont hit a woman in 99.99 percent of situations and this clearly wasnt that.01
Sexist.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:31 pm to lsupride87
I'm on team #freejohnson after this
Most of the time when stuff like this happens I assume the FB player is to blame cause most of them are just too dumb to stay out of their own way. Here she wants to punch him the whole time, he grabs her hands to stop an altercation then lets go and she hits him anyay
He obviously shouldn't have punched her back but it isn't like he did this unprovoked or randomly. He didn't use excessive force on her, and a good defense lawyer could likely get this completely dismissed (she battered him first, he reacted in self defense with reasonable force)
Most of the time when stuff like this happens I assume the FB player is to blame cause most of them are just too dumb to stay out of their own way. Here she wants to punch him the whole time, he grabs her hands to stop an altercation then lets go and she hits him anyay
He obviously shouldn't have punched her back but it isn't like he did this unprovoked or randomly. He didn't use excessive force on her, and a good defense lawyer could likely get this completely dismissed (she battered him first, he reacted in self defense with reasonable force)
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:32 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Because she turned around with her fist up man. If you are trying to insinuate there is any possible way he started the physical altercation I dont know what to say. But this is why being a guy is diffucult in this situation. You are saying he shouldnt have held her, and the other poster is saying he should have continued to hold her. I personally think he should have continued to hold her and ask for security to deescalate it.
While he was still grabbing her wrist.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:33 pm to lsupride87
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Me and LNCH arent saying it is ok. We would both disown our sons for it. But legally this video is very good for him and FSU
Well legally, he grabbed her and restrained her hand before she threw that pillow tap.. It was more of an attempted face shove than anything and had the desired result of him letting go.. He chose escalation when he punched her.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:33 pm to lsupride87
Dude, he DECKED her
Watched it a few more times. He was rude. She's a dumb bitch. She hit him, it was more than a tap. He clocked the frick out of her. He's a moron.
I'd kick him off the team for the simple fact that he's a freshman QB hitting a girl at the bar. Idc what legal action he could or should face. What he did was MORONIC. Not that it's any better to do that in your sophomore, junior, or senior year...but fricking Christ you should have enough sense to know that coming in as a freshman you need to stay out of fricking trouble like that. He punched a girl on video, that's just too stupid to remain on my football team.
Watched it a few more times. He was rude. She's a dumb bitch. She hit him, it was more than a tap. He clocked the frick out of her. He's a moron.
I'd kick him off the team for the simple fact that he's a freshman QB hitting a girl at the bar. Idc what legal action he could or should face. What he did was MORONIC. Not that it's any better to do that in your sophomore, junior, or senior year...but fricking Christ you should have enough sense to know that coming in as a freshman you need to stay out of fricking trouble like that. He punched a girl on video, that's just too stupid to remain on my football team.
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