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re: Raise your hand if you can get married in Louisiana. Not so fast, gays.

Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:40 pm to
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Governor Jindal said, “The Supreme Court decision today conveniently and not surprisingly follows public opinion polls, and tramples on states’ rights that were once protected by the 10th Amendment of the Constitution. Marriage between a man and a woman was established by God, and no earthly court can alter that.


Well we aren’t. They still aren’t going to be married in churches that don’t want them. This is about the LEGAL definition of marriage, not the religious one.

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This decision will pave the way for an all out assault against the religious freedom rights of Christians who disagree with this decision. This ruling must not be used as pretext by Washington to erode our right to religious liberty.


What liberty was assaulted? How in any way did this negatively affect the rights of anyone or anything?

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The government should not force those who have sincerely held religious beliefs about marriage to participate in these ceremonies. That would be a clear violation of America’s long held commitment to religious liberty as protected in the First Amendment.


Who is forcing anyone to “participate in these ceremonies”? What the frick is he talking about?

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I will never stop fighting for religious liberty and I hope our leaders in D.C. join me.”


His political career is fricking done.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:45 pm to
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TheCaterpillar


Nailed it. Dude is lost in a vast ocean of absurd ideology.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98350 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:45 pm to
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There are so many dumb things in here its hard to understand how he was elected to a position of such power.


Because when he was running he presented himself as a nearly non-partisan guy who didn't care about ideology, he just wanted to fix the state. Turns out he didn't believe in that any more he believes in the fundy bullshite he's spouting now. He just wants to get to the next level, and when he does that, he starts looking around for whatever will get him to the level after that. God knows what he would do if he was actually elected president. I doubt he's given it any thought himself. He just wants to get there, because his pathologically massive ego demands it.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6915 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:30 pm to
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Who is forcing anyone to “participate in these ceremonies”? What the frick is he talking about?


Not yet, but you better be ready to bake them a damn cake if they ask you.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25249 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:13 pm to
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What liberty was assaulted? How in any way did this negatively affect the rights of anyone or anything?


The people used to have a right to self governance and to duly pass the laws that govern how their state defines marriage. That liberty was taken away today. States used to have the right to govern the health, safety, welfare, and morals of their citizens without the federal government's ability to intervene. That right was significantly curtailed today. The federal government used to be a limited government whose function was constrained to the specifically enumerated powers in the constitution. The Supreme Court today largely expanded its power under Article III.

You can be happy that you got the result you wanted, but I would caution you to assume that today's decision did no violence to the political process in America. It did pretty extensive damage to our federal system. The whole-cloth creation of a fundamental right within the meaning of "liberty" as used in the 14th Amendment should concern you, not necessarily with this decision, but for the future decision that you will not agree with. Also, note, when you don't like that decision down the road, you can't vote on it because enshrining it in the constitution takes it beyond the reach of the electorate.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 4:15 pm
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