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re: Game of Thrones S5E6 "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" (Book readers Only) No Hodors!
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:01 pm to chryso
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:01 pm to chryso
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Is Sansa "Sansa" or is she Jeyne Poole? The 2 characters are very different and having her shift back and forth doesn't make sense.
The show is not the book. There is no Jeyne Poole. Sansa is Sansa. Accept it.
That's my point. I have accepted it but the Show changed her character because Jeyne Poole gets raped on her wedding night. I just don't buy that Sansa would act the same way as Jeyne and that is what they have done.
As I also mentioned, I didn't expect Sansa to pull out a knife and kill Ramsay. What I did expect was for her to be ready for the situation and to take control of it. She could take control by actually being aggressive sexually with Ramsay which would have thrown him off his game and shown her strength. They could also have shown her acting like she was scared and submissive but under control with rage building as she bides her time for revenge.
That is what Sansa would do. Jeyne Poole was the weak and naive girl that had no choice but to take whatever Ramsay wanted to do to her. Sansa did have to have sex with Ramsay but she also has significant power. She knows the Bolton's need her and that with her in Winterfell the Banners of the North are far more loyal to her than to the Boltons and the Boltons (at least Roose if not Ramsay) knows that as well. Abusing Sansa or killing her really isn't smart because it turns the other Houses against the Boltons. They need for those Houses to believe Sansa is willing.
As it is they will probably have Sansa shift from being the weak "Jeyne Poole" Sansa to the stronger "Sansa" Sansa they have built over the Show and just hope people don't notice. That makes it unpredictable but for the wrong reasons.
Of course the Show seems to be throwing out logic all the time now anyway with characters not only doing different things than the books but doing different things than the character profile they have built for them in the Show. It's just disappointing when they could do a lot more.
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:49 pm to aggressor
I'm really not seeing a wholly positive outcome for Sansa. I don't really think she will stay weak and put upon but I've been leaning more towards an unhinged and kind of unfocused "revenge" outcome ala Lady Stoneheart.
Or maybe just maybe we can get some Frey pie through her storyline.
Though to be honest, at this point I would settle for transplanting the Arya "Weasel Soup" storyline from Harrenhall for Sansa to have a major part in. Maybe Pod can become a kitchen worker and Sansa can orchestrate it through him.
Or maybe just maybe we can get some Frey pie through her storyline.
Though to be honest, at this point I would settle for transplanting the Arya "Weasel Soup" storyline from Harrenhall for Sansa to have a major part in. Maybe Pod can become a kitchen worker and Sansa can orchestrate it through him.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 1:07 pm to aggressor
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As I also mentioned, I didn't expect Sansa to pull out a knife and kill Ramsay. What I did expect was for her to be ready for the situation and to take control of it. She could take control by actually being aggressive sexually with Ramsay which would have thrown him off his game and shown her strength. They could also have shown her acting like she was scared and submissive but under control with rage building as she bides her time for revenge.
This assumes the scene is meant to advance Sansa's character and I dont think it is.
IMO the scene is not about Sansa and what she's going through as much as it's building to Theon/Reek finally regaining the strength to stand up to/disobey Ramsey.
The transformation from the broken man who crawled back in his cage when his sister came to rescue him to someone who will disobey Ramsey and help Sansa. Thats why the camera focus was on him and not her.
They had no issue showing Cersei's face when Jamie raped her. One would assume if the scene was about Sansa they would have done the same.
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That is what Sansa would do.
based on what? You are giving her WAY too much credit for her only scene of 'strength' in which she stands up to a base born kennel masters daughter. In reality Sansa is still a little bird saying and doing what she is told to. First it was Septa Mordane, then Cersei, now it's LF.
ETA: Odd how when you go back and look at the reviews of the episode where Jamie rapes Cersie ( LINK) some of the critics who are outraged over the scene with Sansa had no real issues with what happened to Cersei.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 1:23 pm
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