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re: So the Eagles may be trading Mychal Kendricks
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:17 am to THRILLHO
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:17 am to THRILLHO
Tough call. We are tight to the cap currently and not really in a position to sign any big contracts. Doing so would require back loading, which is something we just got finished fixing. Plus there are a handful of ILBs in this draft that are expected to be good. On the other hand this is a guy that is a known commodity, and we could bring him in and solidify the position with certainty. We do have the future room to sign him now, and we could rely on him for the next 4-5 yrs.
I lean towards drafting one of the guys with the 2nd rd pick, but could be persuaded to trade for him
I lean towards drafting one of the guys with the 2nd rd pick, but could be persuaded to trade for him
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:25 am to Midget Death Squad
Absolutely...
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:05 am to Midget Death Squad
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Tough call. We are tight to the cap currently and not really in a position to sign any big contracts. Doing so would require back loading, which is something we just got finished fixing. Plus there are a handful of ILBs in this draft that are expected to be good. On the other hand this is a guy that is a known commodity, and we could bring him in and solidify the position with certainty. We do have the future room to sign him now, and we could rely on him for the next 4-5 yrs.
I lean towards drafting one of the guys with the 2nd rd pick, but could be persuaded to trade for him
Nice summation of the problems caused by trading for him.
I would normally say that the cap will ease up next year because the team will do something with Brees' $27.4M cap hit...but who knows what will ultimately happen with that.
This team has to get starter type players in the draft in order to include cheap labor to offset the upper end contracts. Trading for a guy who is going into a 2nd contract is not what we need.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:21 am to Midget Death Squad
To be more accurate we did not fix the "problem" of backloading and we actually did more of it this year and will again in the future. What we did fix was the problem of overpaid players in their last year or two of their contracts(with pay cuts, cuts, and trades), which is actually why backloading is beneficial.
Just to give an example, Lofton's contract averaged $5.5m per year and was heavily backloaded. He wound up earning less than the $5.5m per(I think it was closer to $4m per but don't have the numbers presently).
Now had we not backloaded, or even worse frontloaded, we would have paid him more than we wound up doing. The ONLY benefit to not backloading is it makes it easier to keep a borderline player. We may have kept Lofton at $5.5m. Would that have been the right call? Hard to say.
Another benefit to backloading is planned obsolescence. What I mean by that is we pay a player less in his younger (and usually better) years and as he gets older and his contracts swells we ask them to take a pay cut or get cut/traded. In that scenario the team has great leverage as the player is rather worth what his cap is(see Hawthorne, Bunkley, Evans, and Colston this year as pay cuts and Lofton and Grubbs as cuts/trades).
In the NFL backloading is THE way to go and that's why pretty much every contract is done that way. Only reason not to do so is if you are in a bidding war for a player and are giving him more guaranteed money to seal the deal.
Just to give an example, Lofton's contract averaged $5.5m per year and was heavily backloaded. He wound up earning less than the $5.5m per(I think it was closer to $4m per but don't have the numbers presently).
Now had we not backloaded, or even worse frontloaded, we would have paid him more than we wound up doing. The ONLY benefit to not backloading is it makes it easier to keep a borderline player. We may have kept Lofton at $5.5m. Would that have been the right call? Hard to say.
Another benefit to backloading is planned obsolescence. What I mean by that is we pay a player less in his younger (and usually better) years and as he gets older and his contracts swells we ask them to take a pay cut or get cut/traded. In that scenario the team has great leverage as the player is rather worth what his cap is(see Hawthorne, Bunkley, Evans, and Colston this year as pay cuts and Lofton and Grubbs as cuts/trades).
In the NFL backloading is THE way to go and that's why pretty much every contract is done that way. Only reason not to do so is if you are in a bidding war for a player and are giving him more guaranteed money to seal the deal.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/20/15 at 5:23 pm to Midget Death Squad
If we're going to spend a 1st or 2nd rounder on an ilb, why not trade the pick instead for a proven ilb?
1 of our top targets is his brother, Eric, and isn't he arguably better than Eric will be?
I wouldn't mind giving up our second round pick for a proven, young ILB
1 of our top targets is his brother, Eric, and isn't he arguably better than Eric will be?
I wouldn't mind giving up our second round pick for a proven, young ILB
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