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re: Ben Affleck wanted his slave owner ancestor 'censored' from Finding Your Roots
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:39 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:39 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
the Beer Summit provided us with the racial harmony we see today.
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:26 am to biglego
FOX did an ancestor search on Hannity. His fifth grandpa was pretty moderate and refused to beat his slaves on the sabbath. Hannity was very ashamed and tried to cover it up, but the truth has leaked out.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:51 am to Kafka
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These aren't the same thing at all
You guys are unbelievable. They literally believed it was okay to own human beings based on the color of the skin, and they actively partook in that practice, and you're going to argue that isn't racist?
Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:51 am to Tiger Ryno
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Superman is just a stupid character
Yep. And the idea that Batman can beat him because he's "smart enough" and has a "Contingency" for every other hero is idiotic. Any contingency written in for Bats is just a plot contrivance to even the playing field. Superman is unbeatable without those contrivances, and thus boring.
And yes, I know that "kryptonite" is on earth and can hurt him. Another plot contrivance.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:05 am to Grilled Bald Eagle
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Yep. And the idea that Batman can beat him because he's "smart enough" and has a "Contingency" for every other hero is idiotic. Any contingency written in for Bats is just a plot contrivance to even the playing field. Superman is unbeatable without those contrivances, and thus boring.
And yes, I know that "kryptonite" is on earth and can hurt him. Another plot contrivance.
It kind of sounds like you just think anything that can't happen in real life is just a "plot contrivance".
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:09 am to ColeCoushCoush
Many Indians and Blacks in the south owned slaves. Their skin was the same as the skin of said slaves. It blurs the lines somewhat. I realize how hard it is to fathom but back then owning people was part of the culture. Sure their was racial and white supremacy at play but it gets murky explaining all the black and Native American slaver owners.
Affleck should embrace his ancestry. He doesn't own slaves and now he stands for racial equality(at least he thinks he does more of white guilt). Hiding it shows how ignorant he is of history and if he is worried about a negative response from the black community about something his ancestors did 150 yrs ago it will only show their own insecurities and ignorance.
There is a reason the good lord put eyes in the front of you so you could see where you're going and not where you've been. Past is the past.
Affleck should embrace his ancestry. He doesn't own slaves and now he stands for racial equality(at least he thinks he does more of white guilt). Hiding it shows how ignorant he is of history and if he is worried about a negative response from the black community about something his ancestors did 150 yrs ago it will only show their own insecurities and ignorance.
There is a reason the good lord put eyes in the front of you so you could see where you're going and not where you've been. Past is the past.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:17 am to ColeCoushCoush
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You guys are unbelievable. They literally believed it was okay to own human beings based on the color of the skin, and they actively partook in that practice, and you're going to argue that isn't racist?
It's not racial. People have always enslaved those weaker than themselves. Africans do it to each other to this day.
And really, prior to colonial times, N. European white people had not practiced slavery. Someone in Africa must have convinced them that it was a swell idea.
Someone called "the negroes."
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:18 am to StrongSafety
You're a one-trick pony. Must be pretty awful to be so bitter and resentful about race.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 1:19 am
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:20 am to ColeCoushCoush
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You guys are unbelievable. They literally believed it was okay to own human beings based on the color of the skin, and they actively partook in that practice, and you're going to argue that isn't racist?
ur dum
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:20 am to WalkingTurtles
Turns out my black neighbor's ancestors actually owned my white ancestors as slaves. Weird coincidence.
But we are totally cool with that. Bygones. I mean, that is history. I'm sure y'all would feel the same.
But we are totally cool with that. Bygones. I mean, that is history. I'm sure y'all would feel the same.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:22 am to WalkingTurtles
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Many Indians and Blacks in the south owned slaves. Their skin was the same as the skin of said slaves. It blurs the lines somewhat. I realize how hard it is to fathom but back then owning people was part of the culture. Sure their was racial and white supremacy at play but it gets murky explaining all the black and Native American slaver owners.
No it doesn't. It does not get murky at all. Black people and native americans that believed that it was okay to own people based on their race are racist, just like the white people that did it. Believing that it's okay to own a person based on the color of their skin is racist. Participating in a system that allows for a particular race to be treated as property is racist. Yes owning people was part of the culture... racism was facet of the culture.
Black slavery was obviously a racist system, and the people that willingly participated in and profited from that system were racists. Very simple.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:35 am to ColeCoushCoush
So the almost entirely black people who sold the slaves to the Europeans were racist?
I still want to know how the frick Ben Affleck is guilty of something his ancestors did. What a miserable community he must live in where he has to go out of his way to distance himself from that.
I still want to know how the frick Ben Affleck is guilty of something his ancestors did. What a miserable community he must live in where he has to go out of his way to distance himself from that.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:40 am to ColeCoushCoush
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It kind of sounds like you just think anything that can't happen in real life is just a "plot contrivance".
No. I think that the insane "Bats is better than anything" nonsense is...well...nonsense. DC has...let see...SUPERMAN! who can't be beaten by anything but kryptonite. Which no one has...except BATMAN! Because he just has stuff to beat everyone. If Batman exists, why in the hell do any other DC or any other characters exist? The bullshite everyone spits on Bats is idiotic. If he's the end all be all, why have any other comic?
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 1:55 am
Posted on 4/18/15 at 2:46 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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As a reminder Dr Gates was the initial victim of police profiling that led to president Obama's "beer summit" in 2009.
Police profiling is not what happened but yes, he's the beer summit guy.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 3:50 am to ColeCoushCoush
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You guys are unbelievable. They literally believed it was okay to own human beings based on the color of the skin, and they actively partook in that practice, and you're going to argue that isn't racist?
Dude, you do understand that they didn't "own human beings"...I mean in today's understanding they absolutely did, but their regard for their slaves was like your regard for a rat, or a rabid dog. Slavery was not racially driven, it was driven by greed and ignorance.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 4:16 am
Posted on 4/18/15 at 4:10 am to JETigER
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Weren't there black slave owners also?
Yes. There was a big family known for that back where I am from. They own a small trucking company in the Baton Rouge area now.
But.....No living member of that family ever legally owned slaves in the USA. None of them could pick who their parents were.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 4:14 am
Posted on 4/18/15 at 4:30 am to Tiger1242
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Just because a small minority of slave owners were black, and many slave traders were black doesn't mean slave owners weren't mostly racist.
most non-slave owners back them were racists by today's standards as well
Posted on 4/18/15 at 7:24 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Well this is hypocritical considering he'll be playing one of the most racist characters ever created, Batman.
A super rich white guy who dresses in black face to go pummel people on the street. Bruce Wayne is racist as frick.
A super rich white guy who dresses in black face to go pummel people on the street. Bruce Wayne is racist as frick.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 7:27 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Just because someone was a slave owner doesn't make them a racist. Just saying.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 7:27 am to OldNo.7
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Slavery was not racially driven,
Holy mother of god. As a history teacher it actually pisses me off that there are people like you spreading this fricking bullshite. It boggles my mind that multiple people believe this. It's infuriating how many of you buy into this and other myths like many black southerners owned slaves or there were black confederate soldiers. Have you ever read any antebellum primary sources in your life? God damn, just read Thomas Jeffersons notes on Virginia and tell me that it wasn't racial.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 7:28 am
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