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Ruzil has taken this thing so off track. He started out by painting hygiene as a money loser - I pointed out that it is a major earner in a well-run practice.
He tried to say that I must be money-hungry and run a shady practice with my wife skimming cash if hygiene turns a profit. I pointed out how contradictory that was to the type of practice that I actually ran.

Come on man, I asked you a simple question that you didn't answer. I certainly did not accuse you of running a shady practice, that's simply what you inferred from my question. Don't be so touchy.

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He said an independent hygiene office couldn't run on low overhead and turn a substantial profit. I pointed out with facts that it can easily do that, and demonstrated how I thought things would operate in that scenario.

I have no problem with the concept of independent hygiene, I just don't believe the the numbers would work and I think that it would be tremendously inconvenient for the patients. I would applaud any hygienist that could make this work.

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I pointed out that I hired hygienists whose diagnosis and treatment planning skills were better than some dentists I know, and he pointed out that he hires hygienists that can't tell a mental foramen from an abscess yet wonders why they aren't earning him money.

I had previously worked with, not employed or hired, hygienists that made these obvious mistakes reading radiographs, and used this fact to illustrate why I don't believe it's a good idea for them to take and read radiographs in an independent hygiene setting.

Moto, your constant bragging of how great you are in all settings is getting tired and reeks of overcompensation.

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He has tried to turn that into me being an advocate for independent hygiene practices. In no way, shape, or form do I think it's a good idea. I just pointed out that if it happened, it would be profitable for hygienists.

Why are you so angry about something you don't think should exist?

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You might have gained respect for him, but I lost all respect for him. And I actually held him in the highest regard prior to this thread.

Moto, your level of respect for me, affects me how?

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Posted by 911Moto

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Posted on 4/19/15 at 7:38 am to ruzil

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Maybe in a FFS practice not accepting assignment and the dentist wife/hyg/receptionist lapping all that tasty cash at the front desk. Sound familiar?

Sure, you didn't imply anything here - it was all in my head.

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I have no problem with the concept of independent hygiene, I just don't believe the the numbers would work

You don't believe the numbers would work because you don't know how to implement a profitable hygiene department in your own practice - I did you the courtesy of showing you how the numbers work on both accounts (independent and in your practice). You're welcome.

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I had previously worked with, not employed or hired, hygienists that made these obvious mistakes reading radiographs, and used this fact to illustrate why I don't believe it's a good idea for them to take and read radiographs in an independent hygiene setting.

Do you need me to point out all the crappy things I've seen from dentists over the years? How many people walked into my office with 12-restoration treatment plans from other dentists when they only had 2 cavities. Sound familiar? (See how that works?)

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Moto, your constant bragging of how great you are in all settings is getting tired and reeks of overcompensation

What did I brag about? Hiring competent hygienists? If so, you should try it some time. Or was it a brag when I said I bought a $1.2 million gross practice and turned it into a $600K gross practice? I haven't bragged in this thread, I've only stated facts. If that comes off as bragging to you, maybe it's just an inferiority complex on your part.
Even if I did - bragging on the OT? Oh, the horror.

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Why are you so angry about something you don't think should exist?

When did I get angry over this?

The only thing that angered me was your implication that I'm doing something shady if I'm profiting from the hygiene department of my dental practice. Sorry you don't know how to run a practice and have to throw stones at those who did it successfully.