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re: USC's Pat Haden, citing gay son, won't attend meeting in Indiana
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:16 pm to HamzooReb
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:16 pm to HamzooReb
No shoes no shirt no service as cliched as it is speaks more to the rights of private business to do business with whom they wish. It applies across the board and freedom of association which is inherent in our country's DNA. It's not a public domain issue but allows privately held corporate entities to do business exactly as private individuals are able and a response to cases like the one in Colorado where a baker is fined for refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding.
Haden is well within his rights not to go if his employer allows such, so I agree with him as well. If Indiana passed a gay friendly law and Haden didn't attend on the grounds of religion. He would be drawn and quartered as a homophobe, but the State lauded given our current environment and calls would be for him to be forced to attend. The backlash is a good thing and certainly within a citizens rights as a private individual, the comments by an executive such as Apple computer CEO to me is more troublesome, the company is pubicly held and he's charged with the oversight of it as a whole. Not using his office as a forum for social commentary of his opinion.
Haden is well within his rights not to go if his employer allows such, so I agree with him as well. If Indiana passed a gay friendly law and Haden didn't attend on the grounds of religion. He would be drawn and quartered as a homophobe, but the State lauded given our current environment and calls would be for him to be forced to attend. The backlash is a good thing and certainly within a citizens rights as a private individual, the comments by an executive such as Apple computer CEO to me is more troublesome, the company is pubicly held and he's charged with the oversight of it as a whole. Not using his office as a forum for social commentary of his opinion.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 10:18 pm
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:25 pm to Speys and Tays
The liberal media outlets are using headlines like "law essentially allows for discrimination of gays." This is all anyone sees and makes their opinion based on that. It's a sad world we live in. This law does not give any one more or less right to discriminate. Personally, I think every media outlet should point out that this exact law in Illinois was voted YES by Obama when he was a state senator there. 20 states have a law almost exactly like this one. It's a sad world and people like Pat Haden should be ashamed. Read it, then tell us why you won't go.....
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:10 pm to Speys and Tays
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No shoes no shirt no service as cliched as it is speaks more to the rights of private business to do business with whom they wish
Yep and I think everyone backs the business on this one. However if they refuse to serve someone that is transgender there will be hell to pay. Tolerance only when someone agrees with them.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:53 am to Speys and Tays
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No shoes no shirt no service as cliched as it is speaks more to the rights of private business to do business with whom they wish. It applies across the board and freedom of association which is inherent in our country's DNA. It's not a public domain issue but allows privately held corporate entities to do business exactly as private individuals are able and a response to cases like the one in Colorado where a baker is fined for refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding.
Haden is well within his rights not to go if his employer allows such, so I agree with him as well. If Indiana passed a gay friendly law and Haden didn't attend on the grounds of religion. He would be drawn and quartered as a homophobe, but the State lauded given our current environment and calls would be for him to be forced to attend. The backlash is a good thing and certainly within a citizens rights as a private individual, the comments by an executive such as Apple computer CEO to me is more troublesome, the company is pubicly held and he's charged with the oversight of it as a whole. Not using his office as a forum for social commentary of his opinion.
I think Sarah Palin wrote this. It's got that "trying too hard to sound like I know what I'm talking about" vibe.
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