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re: Study Finds American Millennials To Be Some Of The World's Least Skilled People
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:01 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:01 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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I am glad my company isn't like that. I guess there is a reason it is the #1 jet leader. Imagine the fact that they actively promote from within and actually encourage upward movement. I guess this company just isn't with the times.
How does this really disprove anything I've said? Is this really your only retort. "Well, it didn't happen to me." Congrats for having nary an idea or stance to actually argue from.
Again, congratulations on finding that kind of company. I have too. That part about being in tech, yeah I'm lucky and I know it. But what I don't do is think even only my hard work got me here. A little bit of nepotism. A lot of hard work, and a little bit of luck and making sure to prove myself at every step of the way. But I'm lucky to have seen the chance to do that and capitalize on it. Most of my peers really haven't.
You, me, we aren't the only people and my (and your) experience certainly isn't that of the majority of my peers or the kids I've mentored. That experience is nothing like what is actually happening right now. I've known quite a few people from 25-33 who begged for jobs for years, but jobs were impossible to find unless the stars aligned. Many of those were underemployed and that "underemployed experience" never mattered because they either never had the "necessary degree," or their experience, in taking a job below them, was not enough to prepare them for the job market.
How do you get experience in the right field when you need experience to get in the field in the first place?
Again, this is at the feet of the companies most of the time, not the "World's Least Skilled People."
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:09 pm to Freauxzen
quote:My point exactly. I chewed out a big wig about this very issue. It was basically me telling him that he came to LSU multiple times, bitching and moaning about he needed people, and when they are there, he refused to hire them because of lack of experience
How do you get experience in the right field when you need experience to get in the field in the first place?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:16 pm to Hammertime
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My point exactly. I chewed out a big wig about this very issue. It was basically me telling him that he came to LSU multiple times, bitching and moaning about he needed people, and when they are there, he refused to hire them because of lack of experience
Well you go be underemployed obviously. Start at the bottom!
Go spend 4 years in college, learning the perfect thing that you need for this business. And by the way, you have to know what you want to do for the rest of your life at 18. If you don't, screw you. Rack up some debt and then go work for just above minimum wage...yeah that's it!
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:23 pm to Bench McElroy
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Supposedly tech-savvy Millennials also landed in last place in the category measuring how well they use computer applications to solve work problems.
This is because of their sworn allegiance that a Mac is a real computer.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:30 pm to UGATiger26
Staring at glowing objects all the time and narcissim of FB etc. It rots the mind.
Glad I grew up in the pre Internet / smartphone age. Just before, so I have a solid foundation for this theory. Friends and colleagues in both gen x and millenials.
When I was riding the metro in Paris recently it was remarkable how many young people were reading old fashioned books and newspapers or talking to each other. Not buried in their phones.
My advice to millenials. Take a trip somewhere without your phone. Leave it at home. Take a camera. It's "exhilarating."
Glad I grew up in the pre Internet / smartphone age. Just before, so I have a solid foundation for this theory. Friends and colleagues in both gen x and millenials.
When I was riding the metro in Paris recently it was remarkable how many young people were reading old fashioned books and newspapers or talking to each other. Not buried in their phones.
My advice to millenials. Take a trip somewhere without your phone. Leave it at home. Take a camera. It's "exhilarating."
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:42 pm to wadewilson
Let me make it simple:
Baby Boomers:
Put a man in space and on the moon
Gen X:
Latch key kids that can work a computer
Wants top notch job given to them instead of earned
Gave us Nirvana, Starbucks and tree hugging
Gen Y;
Gave us Obama
Gave us hipsters
Can't figure out how to operate an I-ron, but can tell you everything about IPhone and Ipad
Lacks social skills from sitting at home playing video games and having their noses in their devices.
Baby Boomers:
Put a man in space and on the moon
Gen X:
Latch key kids that can work a computer
Wants top notch job given to them instead of earned
Gave us Nirvana, Starbucks and tree hugging
Gen Y;
Gave us Obama
Gave us hipsters
Can't figure out how to operate an I-ron, but can tell you everything about IPhone and Ipad
Lacks social skills from sitting at home playing video games and having their noses in their devices.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:49 pm to el Gaucho
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can't believe this was put on the internet, which millenials created.
LINK
That's interesting, here are the 20 people who it is generally believed to have developed the infrastructure for the internet as we know it, looks like the youngest one is in their late 50s now.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:49 pm to Hammertime
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For those talking about Caterpillar....the only way you'll get promoted inside the company is if someone leaves or dies. You don't get promoted for doing a good job. You could be better than your boss, but you won't get there until he leaves
You're dead wrong. Course I've only worked for Caterpillar for over 20 years so I'm sure you know a lot more than I do.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:51 pm to ChuckM
The problem with Millenials is they are too soft and expect everything to be handed to them. Not surprising that soccer became a very popular sport in the U.S. as this group grew up. You were raised in a juice box world where everybody wins a trophy. You are tech savvy but ignore the world around you making you very unobservant and lacking of problem solving abilities. You have always had mommy and daddy helicoptering around you, ready to swoop in and solve your problems whenever things went wrong. You never learned to resolve conflicts with your peers because of this protectionism. Your Boomer parents built a cocoon around you and made sure you were proected. Take a look at yourselves now.
The Boomers suck just as bad. While I applaud the segment of that generation that gave their all in service in Vietnam even they will admit the other half of their generation were a bunch of slackers. Idealistic, yes, but purely impractical and lacked the ability to get shite done. These people would rather sit around a campfire and sing kumbaya. Peace & love, man. Now you guys have been calling the shots since the Clinton administration, wow, what a great job you've done. Entitlement spending out of control. Social security headed towards the toilet, but don't worry you'll get your benefits. Look at the fricking mess you have left for us to clean up.
I am a member of the current "greatest generation", Generation X. We observed and learned from our grandparents, the Greatest Generation. When it came time for America to answer the call during the First Gulf War this group didn't burn their draft cards, hell no, this group stepped up, and then re-upped years later the 2nd time around. What makes us better than the Boomers and the Millenials as a group is that we have been forced to earn everything we get. We weren't raised in an everybody gets a trophy society, we actually kept score and had winners and losers. We're educated as most of us went to college when it was actually affordable to do so. We're tech savvy, heck, the tech boom wouldn't have happened through the 90's if it wasn't for us. Tech savvy yet still grew up in an environment where you had to pay attention to your surroundings and actually, I don't know, talk with people. Work ethic, boom, got it. Tech skills, boom got it. Problem solving abilities, boom got it. Gritty because we've had to carry the load having been sandwiched between the "Me" generation and the "Huh?" generation. That pretty much describes Generation X.
That should add a few more pages of bloat to this thread.
The Boomers suck just as bad. While I applaud the segment of that generation that gave their all in service in Vietnam even they will admit the other half of their generation were a bunch of slackers. Idealistic, yes, but purely impractical and lacked the ability to get shite done. These people would rather sit around a campfire and sing kumbaya. Peace & love, man. Now you guys have been calling the shots since the Clinton administration, wow, what a great job you've done. Entitlement spending out of control. Social security headed towards the toilet, but don't worry you'll get your benefits. Look at the fricking mess you have left for us to clean up.
I am a member of the current "greatest generation", Generation X. We observed and learned from our grandparents, the Greatest Generation. When it came time for America to answer the call during the First Gulf War this group didn't burn their draft cards, hell no, this group stepped up, and then re-upped years later the 2nd time around. What makes us better than the Boomers and the Millenials as a group is that we have been forced to earn everything we get. We weren't raised in an everybody gets a trophy society, we actually kept score and had winners and losers. We're educated as most of us went to college when it was actually affordable to do so. We're tech savvy, heck, the tech boom wouldn't have happened through the 90's if it wasn't for us. Tech savvy yet still grew up in an environment where you had to pay attention to your surroundings and actually, I don't know, talk with people. Work ethic, boom, got it. Tech skills, boom got it. Problem solving abilities, boom got it. Gritty because we've had to carry the load having been sandwiched between the "Me" generation and the "Huh?" generation. That pretty much describes Generation X.
That should add a few more pages of bloat to this thread.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:58 pm to Freauxzen
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Go spend 4 years in college, learning the perfect thing that you need for this business. And by the way, you have to know what you want to do for the rest of your life at 18. If you don't, screw you. Rack up some debt and then go work for just above minimum wage...yeah that's it!
You think that's a joke but the joke's on you because that's exactly how every generation before this one went about getting started on their careers. And they didn't whine, bitch, and moan about how unfair it was or how mean the world was to not just hand them a top paying job from day one.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:01 pm to TejasHorn
I'm in what feels like the minority when this topic comes up because I don't have an issue with people being on their phones/tablets places.
Right now, I'm sitting in an airport using my phone typing this message.
I don't want to talk to these people. I hate people. I don't have social issues. When I want to talk to someone, I do. Never had a problem making friends or meeting men. I have no desire to chat with a stranger, technology or not.
Why would I sit here and look around at people when I can read, join in discussions online, learn things, be entertained, etc.?
Using the Internet is no different than bringing a book. It is a form of entertainment to take your mind away from where you are.
I learn all kinds of things online.
Right now, I'm sitting in an airport using my phone typing this message.
I don't want to talk to these people. I hate people. I don't have social issues. When I want to talk to someone, I do. Never had a problem making friends or meeting men. I have no desire to chat with a stranger, technology or not.
Why would I sit here and look around at people when I can read, join in discussions online, learn things, be entertained, etc.?
Using the Internet is no different than bringing a book. It is a form of entertainment to take your mind away from where you are.
I learn all kinds of things online.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:05 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:If they had the internet they probably would have.
And they didn't whine, bitch, and moan about how unfair it was or how mean the world was to not just hand them a top paying job from day one.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:10 pm to joeleblanc
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Baby Boomers:
Put a man in space and on the moon
Not exactly. The boomers were still in middle school when we first put a man into space and were just getting into college when we went to the moon.
Truth be told, it was mostly the "Greatest Generation" that got us into space and put a man on the moon. just add that to their list of accomplishments that include winning World War II.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:11 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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If they had the internet they probably would have.
This may come as a total shock to you, but people did communicate before the internet.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:11 pm to Darth_Vader
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Baby Boomers:
Put a man in space and on the moon
This actually fits, though. Trying to take credit for something another group has done. How Boomerish.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:14 pm to Darth_Vader
C'mon man! don't steal my thunder! lol
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:19 pm to SoDakHawk
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SoDakHawk
Golf clap bro. Preach on fellow x'er.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:20 pm to Bench McElroy
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Study Finds American Millennials To Be Some Of The World's Least Skilled People by Bench McElroy
If a car load of them had a flat, I guarantee you they'd have to call Triple A.
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