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re: How much of an emergency fund do I really need?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:34 am to barry
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:34 am to barry
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Investing money outside of a 401k means you have to make back what you lost in taxes first before you can't outpreform your 401k.
As I understand it, the difference is in taxable events that occur after the initial contribution, not the initial one.
You'll see the difference 10-20 years down the road more than you will in the short term.
It doesn't get an initial head start because it is taxed on the back end.
10000 Gross taxed account at 25%
10000 taxed to 7500, grows annually for 10 years at 8% to 16,191
10000 tax deferred grows to 21,589, taxed at 25% to 16,191
There are big benefits to a 401k, but the idea that taxable investments have to play catchup to the pretax investments isn't one.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 12:15 pm to Volvagia
If you're in a low tax bracket now... Roth. High tax bracket, any avenue available. (Back door an HSA for instance).
Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:25 pm to Volvagia
This is way too simplistic. People on this board keep forgetting about marginal vs average tax rates. You are avoiding taxes at your marginal rate, and paying them later at an average tax rate.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:14 pm to Volvagia
quote:
As I understand it, the difference is in taxable events that occur after the initial contribution, not the initial one.
You'll see the difference 10-20 years down the road more than you will in the short term.
It doesn't get an initial head start because it is taxed on the back end.
10000 Gross taxed account at 25%
10000 taxed to 7500, grows annually for 10 years at 8% to 16,191
10000 tax deferred grows to 21,589, taxed at 25% to 16,191
There are big benefits to a 401k, but the idea that taxable investments have to play catchup to the pretax investments isn't one.
You just described the difference between a before tax (401k) and after tax (roth IRA). Investments made in a regular brokerage account with after tax dollars are taxed AGAIN via capital gains.
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