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re: HS Student charged with manslaughter after encouraging friend to commit suicide
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Since we can't just put her down like the diseased animal she is, she needs to have "MANIPULATIVE PSYCHOTIC BITCH" tattooed on her ginormous forehead as a warning to others.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:26 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:hmmmmmm
Student charged with manslaughter after encouraging friend to commit suicide
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:46 pm to Bench McElroy
No person can deny that she is beyond shitty, that said, it would be absolutely stupid to convict her. It would set horrible precedent.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:48 pm to ChatRabbit77
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It would set horrible precedent.
How so?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:51 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:First Amendment mean anything to you?
How so?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:51 pm to Bench McElroy
After reading the article, I'd say it's deserved. He wanted out, she kept talking him back in.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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for what, exactly?
suicide is an intentional act
she had no part in the act of suicide. she played no role in assisting or facilitating the actual suicide
let's say this becomes a standard thing. the next step is asking at what point not reporting another's melancholy becomes involuntary manslaughter. how much support do you have to give a person if you believe they may be suicidal, to avoid being blamed for their choice to end their life (if they do it)?
I'd agree if it was just encouragement, but she also instructed him how to do it with the generator and everything.
It becomes aiding and abetting at that point IMO.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:54 pm to airfernando
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First Amendment mean anything to you?
It means a lot to me. But first amendment is not a blanket right to say anything you want to anyone about anything and not face legal consequences.
If your speech directly leads to another person's harm you should be held accountable.
I can think of a number of scenarios where my speech alone could lead to someone's death and legal liability ensues.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
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How so?
Because telling people to do certain things does not mean that they have to do them...
Should you get arrested for telling your friend to drive even though he is drunk if he kills someone? No. He made the ultimate decision.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:01 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Should you get arrested for telling your friend to drive even though he is drunk if he kills someone?
That depends on if you're serving him or buying him booze.
Let's turn your scenario around, if you encourage him to go blow up a public square, do you think he should face charges?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:05 pm to Bench McElroy
Anyone else curious to how he died idling a car in an open parking lot?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:13 pm to DVinBR
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Anyone else curious to how he died idling a car in an open parking lot?
I wondered about that too. Based on this-
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Roy died of carbon monoxide poisoning after locking himself in his truck. According to prosecutors, Carter urged him to go to the parking lot and replied, "You are ready and prepared, all you have to do is turn on the generator and you will be free and happy."
- maybe he had a small gas generator in the cab with the windows rolled up?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:14 pm to DVinBR
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Anyone else curious to how he died idling a car in an open parking lot?
Probably ran a hose from the tailpipe into the sealed cab of the truck.
A little bit of CO would leak out because you couldn't seal off the cab completely due to the hose itself. But enough would get into the cab to do the trick.
ETA: Nvm. Didn't see the part about the generator.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:18 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Should you get arrested for telling your friend to drive even though he is drunk if he kills someone?
Talking your drunk friend into driving after he had decided not to would be closer to this situation
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:20 pm to jchamil
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Talking your drunk friend into driving after he had decided not to would be closer to this situation
Even then my statement stands. Only he can make the decision. You never put a gun to his head.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:24 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Even then my statement stands. Only he can make the decision. You never put a gun to his head.
What about plotting a robbery or homicide?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:31 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Even then my statement stands. Only he can make the decision. You never put a gun to his head.
So if someone encourages a bullied kid to get revenge on a packed school campus by shooting it up and that person tells the kid what to do (but don't provide the necessary materials) you don't think that person deserves to be charged?
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:33 pm to NYNolaguy1
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First Amendment mean anything to you?
The First Amendment only applies to the government prohibiting or abridging free speech. There is no amorphous blanket right to free speech in every situation involving private citizens. If you say something that leads to someone's death, and if it fits the elements of a criminal statute, then boom, you're guilty and buh bye. Like she should be.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:34 pm to Bench McElroy
Yeesh, talk about setting a bad precedent.
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