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re: Philosophy: Do you believe in a deterministic or indeterministic universe?

Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:12 pm to
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I understand that you think randomness in an indeterministic universe leaves room for free will.

This is all I have asserted.

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I would like you to describe how free will would work in such a universe, considering its ultimately random properties. If everything is random on an atomic level, how could free will possibly exist?

It's the only way free will can exist. If everything is deterministic, there's no free will. Free will means that I as a person can choose between alternatives A & B. In a deterministic universe, that choice has already been made.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:19 pm to
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t's the only way free will can exist. If everything is deterministic, there's no free will.


I agree with you, though certain academics/scientists would disagree. Again, see Daniel Dennett (Elbow Room, for example).

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Free will means that I as a person can choose between alternatives A & B. In a deterministic universe, that choice has already been made.


In an indeterministic universe, events happen through random probability, even at the level of the brain. Therefore, the decision being made is made on the basis of said random probability. Free will, to me, doesn't make sense in that paradigm either.
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