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Todd McShay Mock Draft 2.0 (2 LSU players in the 1st round)
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:09 pm
Todd McShay 2.0
26 Baltimore Ravens Jalen Collins, CB, LSU
28 Denver Broncos La'El Collins, OT, LSU
Of course this is pre-combine, but do y'all think La'El Collins falls that late?
26 Baltimore Ravens Jalen Collins, CB, LSU
28 Denver Broncos La'El Collins, OT, LSU
Of course this is pre-combine, but do y'all think La'El Collins falls that late?
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:10 pm to LSU 318 LSU
If he falls, it's not because of talent. More about needs and what teams are looking for in the 1st round
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:14 pm to LSU 318 LSU
I honestly think La'El has a fantastic combine and moves up to the middle of the 1st round. I don't see Jalen as a 1st rounder at all. More like a 3rd rounder, maybe 2nd rounder with a great combine.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:15 pm to LSU 318 LSU
Is it just me or does anyone else thin kit's crazy people keep projecting Jalen Collins in the first round? Solid player but not exactly a shut down corner. Tharold Simon and him were similar size players and I always thought Simon was better and he didn't go near round 1.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:18 pm to thunderbird1100
Yeah, I remember an ESPN article back in 2011 where the players said he was the most underrated "freak" athlete on the team. I'm assuming McShay is anticipating Collins to crush the combine
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:18 pm to thunderbird1100
I pretty much posted exactly what you said in the other thread 
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:19 pm to LSU 318 LSU
same thread literally right beneath this one.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:23 pm to arcalades
Let me get this straight. Jalen got a stay in school grade from the NFL, but he gets a first round projection in McShay's mock?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:24 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Not crazy at all given that the draft is as much about potential as anything.
Is it just me or does anyone else thin kit's crazy people keep projecting Jalen Collins in the first round? Solid player but not exactly a shut down corner. Tharold Simon and him were similar size players and I always thought Simon was better and he didn't go near round 1.
Collins is faster and has better ball skills than Simon. If he runs in the 4.3s, that'll probably be all he needs to punch his ticket to the 1st round.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:26 pm to LSU 318 LSU
I think mock drafts are frickign stupid.
But i really don't think Jalen is a 1st rounder.
But i really don't think Jalen is a 1st rounder.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:26 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:
Is it just me or does anyone else thin kit's crazy people keep projecting Jalen Collins in the first round? Solid player but not exactly a shut down corner. Tharold Simon and him were similar size players and I always thought Simon was better and he didn't go near round 1
I disagree with that. IMO Collins was considerably better than last year than Simon ever looked at LSU. It's hard really remembering Collins ever getting beat in coverage, and he tackled well. His biggest issue was missing interception opportunities, which if not for that he probably would have been All-SEC.
I think McShay has been way too low on La'El for a while. I can't imagine a guy like Devin Funchess getting drafted before La'El Collins, that's crazy to me.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:00 pm to LSU 318 LSU
Danielle Hunter's size and speed should excite scouts at the combine.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:10 pm to High C
quote:
Let me get this straight. Jalen got a stay in school grade from the NFL, but he gets a first round projection in McShay's mock?
EXACTLY. While he is a physical run-stopper at corner with good size he gets beat in coverage. He did a poor job this season on the quick slants that often resulted in 1st downs. He should have stayed for another yr.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 2:51 pm to HC87
I'm not saying Jalen is a 1st rounder, but he played very well last year despite all the crap he took on here.
I think most of it came in his second year when he played through an injury. Martin got the same treatment.
You would think they were the Welter's of the DBs by reading the rant.
I think most of it came in his second year when he played through an injury. Martin got the same treatment.
You would think they were the Welter's of the DBs by reading the rant.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:00 pm to lob1284
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IMO Collins was considerably better than last year than Simon ever looked at LSU
Well I guess you're forgetting that in 2011 Simon had over 40 tackles and 10 PBU, which led the team. Plus he only gave up 3.6 yards per attempt on 30 passes against the 7 best passing offenses we played that year. Claiborne and Mathieu both gave up over 7 ypa in those games.
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:00 pm to LSU 318 LSU
I'd be surprised if La'el falls that far honestly
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:02 pm to LSU 318 LSU
Jalen Collins had a really good year. He got beat some, but he also made plenty of plays.
Even the best corners get beat sometimes when you play press man the majority of the time, especially when your front 7 has difficulty getting pressure on the QB.
Even the best corners get beat sometimes when you play press man the majority of the time, especially when your front 7 has difficulty getting pressure on the QB.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:16 pm to DallasTiger45
+1
He doesn't have to be a man-to-man corner on every team. He just needs that one team that needs a big corner with improved ball skills. I don't think there are many corners who will transition to the NFL better that Jalen. Perfect fit for a Tampa 2 or the Seattle zone defense.
He doesn't have to be a man-to-man corner on every team. He just needs that one team that needs a big corner with improved ball skills. I don't think there are many corners who will transition to the NFL better that Jalen. Perfect fit for a Tampa 2 or the Seattle zone defense.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:19 pm to Eman5805
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Collins is faster and has better ball skills than Simon.
Collins may be a little faster (not by much), but I disagree on ball skills. Collins' ball skills aren't very good. It's his biggest negative. Great tackling skills, and very good cover guy, however.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:27 pm to lsusportsman2
Well if Greg Robinson can go from a proj. early 2nd round pick, have a fantastic combine and move up to the 2nd overall pick to the Rams, using your language, if Collins has a fantastic combine he could go top 10 overall. OT is always highly valued. Lets Hope
Side note- Still flustered that Greg Robinson went to Auburn instead of home state LSU (thanks Grimes)
Side note- Still flustered that Greg Robinson went to Auburn instead of home state LSU (thanks Grimes)
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 4:28 pm
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