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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **

Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by gmshooter
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
384 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:33 pm to
Norco have not settled there local issues yet.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45827 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Never cared where my dues went, kind of like not caring what state farm does with my insurance premiums. Just wish they were less.


Well they were used to support Obama and the Dems, who passed Obamacare and will be taxing your "Cattilac" Heath care plan next year 40%...
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40203 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:41 pm to
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Sounds pretty awesome but we all know that will never happen

I couldn't be an ER nurse...I would be pissed off every day at work. It would get to a point where I would get so fed up I would start telling parents "are you fricking kidding me? You brought your child in here at 2 am for a fricking hangnail???!"


I was shadowing my uncle (who is an ER doc) and it was 3:28 AM and a woman brought her 5 year old son in with a fever. The child's temp was 99.1

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am all for a system where we give the ER doc the ability to say "your illness, injury, condition, etc. is not emergent in nature and therefore we have no treatment for you, please follow up with your PCP"... And give that dr immunity against any suit for making that declaratio


We have the exact opposite of a system. The policy at the hospital that my uncle works at is if there is any even if it is 0.0000001% chance that they could sue, admit them. Especially if they have insurance.
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5104 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:41 pm to
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quote: Never cared where my dues went, kind of like not caring what state farm does with my insurance premiums. Just wish they were less. Well they were used to support Obama and the Dems, who passed Obamacare and will be taxing your "Cattilac" Heath care plan next year 40%...


I believe this to be true but was told zero of our dues went to anything political. That's when I asked for a breakdown of how those monies are used. They couldn't get that info for me.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:43 pm to
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Well they were used to support Obama and the Dems, who passed Obamacare and will be taxing your "Cattilac" Heath care plan next year 40%...


Alright. I probably paid more to electrical companies and insurance companies that do the same thing.

As I said, I paid for a service. I may not like what they do with their profits for providing that service, but they were the only game in town.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45827 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:49 pm to
Which union?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97739 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:50 pm to
If I choose not to join the union do I get same benefits?
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18533 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:50 pm to
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** 9 plants STRIKE ** USW strike


Where are Henry Frick and the Pinkertons when you need them?
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:52 pm to
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Where are Henry Frick and the Pinkertons when you need them?



Sadly, a lot of the mouth breathers on this board would support shooting workers who want more compensation.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45827 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:53 pm to
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If I choose not to join the union do I get same benefits?


Perhaps, but you better have some knife proof tires...
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 4:54 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 4:54 pm to
quote:


If I choose not to join the union do I get same benefits?


Yep
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:06 pm to
I was told Norco's local issues HAVE been resolved and signed.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:42 pm to
What did you think your Union rep was going to tell you "we greedy as frick and will strike to get what we want, we don't care if you make $24/day"
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:50 pm to
Your union reps are hourly employees also and work with you side by side. So yea, I don't see the point in them feeding anyone BS bc it affects them also.
Posted by Txgrl43
Member since Feb 2015
51 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:57 pm to
I have read many of the messages and comments left here. First let me say this I work at one of the 9 Refineries listed who went out at 12:45 this morning. I am a non union salaried employee . The comment made as to " if they walk everyone walks" is not true. Right now salaried employees are running the refineries depending upon location. The companies choose which salaried employees come in during a strike due to the fact they have the experience to run the plant during a strike . The majority of our salaried employees have worked at the same location for over 20 years. As to the remaining salaried employees will stay at home during what is call the "quiet period". Companies do not want everyone in the plants due to safety reasons. The demands brought on by the union listed people need to understand why the demands are being asked for before you talk as if you know why. The sign on bonus would be for new hires the 6% pay increase is only for the first year the health insurance issues are due to the very high out of pocket before the insurance kicks in ask someone who makes median income not a operator or union member about insurance payments.As to the fatigue issue let's see how many if you guys and girls could work over 25-30 days straight 12-16 hr days ? Or work a schedule where you may work your first day on nights then flip when in 24 hrs to days and so fourth each at 12 hrs a day. Many of the men and women work in very hazardous conditions Yes we know what we get ourselves into when we work at these such places. We know when we walk thru the gates we may not come home. Unless you have worked or currently work in the refineries please don't think you know what we go thru. Do I support everything in the contract the union is trying to get NO but as a salaried employee I get the Same Benifits as the union so I say fight like hell on what matters.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:59 pm to
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Txgrl43


This person gets it.
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 6:06 pm to
I agree. Txgirl and hope everything resolves quickly. I also work at not one of the refineries in question but one that may be next. Keep on keeping on.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6501 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 6:17 pm to
In my plant the USW workers bitch when we make them take fatigue days off to rest.
I dont buy anything about then wanting more fatigue days
Posted by Txgrl43
Member since Feb 2015
51 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 6:23 pm to
Thank you for to comments! As a 4th generation is this industry and yes I am 43 so this should tell people how far back my family goes and a union baby people do not know the life of plant workers only the products we produce. i.e. diapers ,gas, oil, jet fuel and don't let me forget the red solo cups so many people are drinking out of right now during the Super Bowl brought to you by the men and women who work and have lost there lives to give you such products. Yes are the CEO of the refineries making a ton of money off the backs of "everyone" salaried or union HELL YES. This is why they fight every 3 years! I ask also everyone on this site one question Are you willing to go to work everyday to give America the products needed to live each day when you may not walk out alive? When you can answer yes to this question you are a true refinery worker. As to the other refineries coming up for contract renewals I say this look at the demands now before either sides start negotiations and see what needs to get weeded out on the proposals . Good luck to everyone and god bless!
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16881 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 6:25 pm to
Any word about Exxon BR still working?
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