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From 2007 till now, Patriots fumbling rate is off the chart

Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:16 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:16 pm
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They are averaging 1 in every 187 plays while league average is 1 fumble on ever 105 plays.
The chance of this happening is 1 in 16,233.
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:18 pm to
Imagine how stunning their fumble ratio would've been without Ridley.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35056 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:25 pm to
How long could they have been doing this? I feel like it's been a while and they finally got busted.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by JohnHager913
Member since Dec 2014
758 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:46 pm to
I think the patriots are pumping hot air into the game balls before ref inspects them.

Then the ball will cool down and the pressure reduced.

Nobody is tamping the balls. Just some simple physics

Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:54 pm to
Can't wait for the congressional hearings on this after the Super Bowl.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:19 pm to
This is the first time I've been interested in the story. Solid post. I could see something coming of this.
Posted by JohnHager913
Member since Dec 2014
758 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:34 pm to
This is bull shite. patriots is a passing team. need to do fumble rate per running play
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:53 pm to
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They are averaging 1 in every 187 plays while league average is 1 fumble on ever 105 plays.


You've been had.



The Patriots have fumbled once every 67 offensive plays (once per game) since the beginning of the 2007 season, not once every 187 plays.

NFL stats per NFL.com and Pro football Reference websites:

Offensive Plays by New England:

2007 - 1080
2008 - 1126
2009 - 1189
2010 - 1078
2011 - 1002
2012 - 1072
2013 - 1094
2014 - 1053

Total offensive plays 2007 through 2014 seasons = 8494

Fumbles by New England per season:

2007 - 14
2008 - 17
2009 - 17
2010 - 9
2011 - 15
2012 - 14
2013 - 27
2014 - 16

Total fumbles 2007-2014 seasons = 129

8494 offensive plays divided by 129 fumbles = 1 every 67.39 offensive plays

By comparison, another bad-weather, winning team, 2007-2014 Green Bay Packers averaged 5 fumbles more per season than the Patriots did over that 8 year span. FIVE per season. One additional fumble for every 3+ games.

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In addition, your PJMEDIA guy repeatedly quoted 2007 as the beginning year for studies numbers, while the Sharp Football website clearly states they only went back to the year 2010. The significance of this 3-year variance is that PJMEDIA attempted to link it with 2007 because both "Spygate" and the perfect 16-0 regular season took place in 2007, creating a scenario that the Patriots started "cheating" on ball pressure immediately after being caught doing the sideline filming. The numbers used by PJMEDIA in your link are for 5 years not 8 years as they claim, and they are incorrect anyway

Some of you can read just about anything on the internet and run with it, when you can just as easily verify the numbers for yourself. But then, it sounds so much more sinister to claim they fumbled once every 187 offensive plays than once every 67 offensive plays.


Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9883 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:57 am to
Must be the deflated balls.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27838 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 7:32 am to
I don't think this is accurate. I recall the patriots fumbling a ton. Thats why they rotated RB so much.

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Yep just looked it up. They've been better than most over this time period but not "off the chart"
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 7:34 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71640 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:42 am to
You just got your sorry arse roasted. I will never take you seriously again for what it's worth.

My personal favorite is you show a "love for statistics". You just don't show a love for fact checking.
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