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Promoting Brick vs Players learning a new system.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:04 pm
It took Beckwith (just one example), 2 years to learn Chavis system well enough to finally supplant Welter.(think about Jamal Adams too). Like most of you, I was "all for" bringing in a proven commodity at D.C. (LSU being too big of a program to promote from within). But the more I think about it, especially considering the recent developments (other coaches not materializing ). Maybe we should just promote Brick & bring in coach Orgeron. Vs players having to learn a complicated new system.
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:07 pm to doze4
Pretty much what most are willing to accept
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:08 pm to doze4
It took Beckwith so long because Welter was Chavis' pet. Blatant favoritism is what kept KB off the field.
ETA: It's important to keep the long game in mind. You can't just make a hire for the sake of continuity.
ETA: It's important to keep the long game in mind. You can't just make a hire for the sake of continuity.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:08 pm to doze4
YEP! Let's run a 2nd hand version of Chavis' D so we don;t have to go through the trouble of learning a new defense.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:09 pm to doze4
Will you be happy if we promote Brick and don't land Coach O? Because that's what I think will happen, unfortunately.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:10 pm to doze4
I'd be more excited with a big name hire like anyone else, but you make a decent point. If Orgeron is the recruiter people claim he is, then maybe he can keep the D line loaded with more talent than we've had over the past few years.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:10 pm to doze4
Malveto
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:19 pm to doze4
quote:
It took Beckwith (just one example), 2 years to learn Chavis system well enough to finally supplant Welter.(think about Jamal Adams too). Like most of you, I was "all for" bringing in a proven commodity at D.C. (LSU being too big of a program to promote from within). But the more I think about it, especially considering the recent developments (other coaches not materializing ). Maybe we should just promote Brick & bring in coach Orgeron. Vs players having to learn a complicated new system.
It's like someone wiped everyone's brain of 2008. That was the argument then in favor of Les paying his buddies instead of him hiring someone who actually was qualified to lead and call a defense. They didn't have to learn a new system we were told. Mallory apparently was a genius at film breakdown. Yet, the defense was atrocious. We hired a proven guy with a new system for the guys to learn, and like magic, the defense was good again. So, no. Let the kids learn what to do from someone who knows what to do.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:19 pm to doze4
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Maybe we should just promote Brick & bring in coach Orgeron.
You still okay with Brick if Orgeron isn't brought in?
It speaks volumes that LSU fans are okay with Haley contingent on Orgeron. Maybe I expect too much, but considering the defensive history and current prowess at LSU, I want a DC that is qualified and can stand on his own two feet.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:20 pm to doze4
Did you just call moscona or did someone see this and call in?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:25 pm to doze4
You just called into AFR didn't you
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:27 pm to doze4
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But the more I think about it, especially considering the recent developments (other coaches not materializing ). Maybe we should just promote Brick & bring in coach Orgeron. Vs players having to learn a complicated new system.
Look. This might work out if it happens.
But there is no denying that if Miles ends up doing this, it will be because he couldn't land someone worth a shite.
Now, we can debate on this board all we want about the quality of Miles' ability, but if we settle for Brick, then we will have just witnessed the coaching community's vote of no-confidence regarding Miles at this moment.
Sure. It's possible all those coaches are wrong.........but, they do know more than any posi or negatiger on this board.
Actions speak louder than words.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:40 pm to doze4
Pretty ridiculous. The players can learn a new system.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:41 pm to doze4
No
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:55 pm to doze4
So you want to keep the same defense... With chavis knowing what we'll be doing and everybody else too?... You are a special kind and f dumb! 
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:10 pm to doze4
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Promoting Brick vs Players learning a new system.
But the system sucks at closing out games.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:44 pm to doze4
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It took Beckwith (just one example), 2 years to learn Chavis system well enough to finally supplant Welter.(think about Jamal Adams too). Like most of you, I was "all for" bringing in a proven commodity at D.C. (LSU being too big of a program to promote from within). But the more I think about it, especially considering the recent developments (other coaches not materializing ). Maybe we should just promote Brick & bring in coach Orgeron. Vs players having to learn a complicated new system.
Beckwith wasn't learning the system. He was learning the basics of playing middle linebacker…and developing the instincts that go along with playing middle linebacker.
Chavis literally runs the simplest defense in the nation.
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