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Honest question....Just how good is Shoop
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:06 pm
I can't really measure how good he is based on Penn
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:09 pm to hansongrad
look at his numbers while he was at Vandy
which was already mentioned in the other thread about Shoops
which was already mentioned in the other thread about Shoops
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:09 pm to hansongrad
If your D is good with Vanderbilt players it must be coaching. It is easy to have a good D with Alabama players.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:09 pm to hansongrad
On a scale of 1-10 he's probably between 1 and 10.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:10 pm to hansongrad
They took Ohio State to double OT and held them to 17 in regulation. 31-24.
Ohio State scored 42 in regulation against Lord Saban.
:inb4transitiveproperty:
Ohio State scored 42 in regulation against Lord Saban.
:inb4transitiveproperty:
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:19 pm to hansongrad
it's awesome! salt n pepa was always one of my favorite hip hop groups…
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:20 pm to hansongrad
quote:
On a scale of 1-10 he's probably between 1 and 10.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 9:36 pm to hansongrad
He turned smart kids at Vandy into a top 20 defense; that's good coaching.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 10:26 pm to hansongrad
They only had 2 games this season where the opponent gained over 300 yeards.
Wasn't his Penn St. defense low on depth too? I'm not sure since they were on probation just the season before
Wasn't his Penn St. defense low on depth too? I'm not sure since they were on probation just the season before
Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:34 pm to hansongrad
Pretty damn good by the numbers. I'm pretty heavy into advanced statistics / analytics. Here are some numbers I have compiled.
FootballOutsiders.com has a few advanced metrics they use to evaluate teams, here are his rankings the last 3 seasons on the two most popular ones S&P and FEI.
(National ranking out of 128 D1 Teams)
S&P Ratings
2014 PSU 12th
2013 VANDY 47th
2012 VANDY 41st
FEI Ratings
2014 PSU 8th
2013 VANDY 53rd
2012 VANDY 35th
Here are some numbers I compiled on my own that I think are good measures of success.
Tackles For Loss
2014 PSU 20th
2013 Vandy 29th
2012 Vandy 10th
Opposing Passer Rating
2014 PSU 2nd
2013 Vandy 23rd
2012 Vandy 6th
Rushing Yards Per Attempt
2014 PSU 2nd
2013 Vandy 64th
2012 Vandy 39th
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion Rate
2014 PSU 6th
2013 Vandy 41st
2012 Vandy 27th
Red Zone TD Percentage
2014 PSU 13th
2013 Vandy 78th
2012 Vandy 7th
Penn States defense was one of the best in the nation in nearly every statistic imaginable, and you have to factor in the talent disadvantage he had while at Vanderbilt and still put up very favorable numbers.
When all the candidates starting leaking he was the one I was most interested in, took the time to make this post so others could understand why.
FootballOutsiders.com has a few advanced metrics they use to evaluate teams, here are his rankings the last 3 seasons on the two most popular ones S&P and FEI.
(National ranking out of 128 D1 Teams)
S&P Ratings
2014 PSU 12th
2013 VANDY 47th
2012 VANDY 41st
FEI Ratings
2014 PSU 8th
2013 VANDY 53rd
2012 VANDY 35th
Here are some numbers I compiled on my own that I think are good measures of success.
Tackles For Loss
2014 PSU 20th
2013 Vandy 29th
2012 Vandy 10th
Opposing Passer Rating
2014 PSU 2nd
2013 Vandy 23rd
2012 Vandy 6th
Rushing Yards Per Attempt
2014 PSU 2nd
2013 Vandy 64th
2012 Vandy 39th
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion Rate
2014 PSU 6th
2013 Vandy 41st
2012 Vandy 27th
Red Zone TD Percentage
2014 PSU 13th
2013 Vandy 78th
2012 Vandy 7th
Penn States defense was one of the best in the nation in nearly every statistic imaginable, and you have to factor in the talent disadvantage he had while at Vanderbilt and still put up very favorable numbers.
When all the candidates starting leaking he was the one I was most interested in, took the time to make this post so others could understand why.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:24 am to hansongrad
Personally I hope he kills the interview. This is the guy I wanted all along
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:59 am to hansongrad
You ain't looking in the right places to get answers to you "honest question"
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:26 am to hansongrad
oh he good , yessir , he very good. I have a want for CLM to want. 
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:27 am to hansongrad
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 12:45 am
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:46 am to hansongrad
He's better than Saggy Man-Tits McChavis!
In all honesty though, I think he's great. Vandy had great defenses with 2* and 3* talent, and James Franklin is an offense guy, so Shoop is the one who gets the credit for that.
In all honesty though, I think he's great. Vandy had great defenses with 2* and 3* talent, and James Franklin is an offense guy, so Shoop is the one who gets the credit for that.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:47 am to hansongrad
Did well at vandy with subpar talent. Not sure about his recruiting skills. As a play caller and coaching up players I think he would be a good hire
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:31 am to hansongrad
No defensive coordinator is really, really good when his players are in the field all fricking game.
Miles needs to buck the "shitty offense" trend and his defense will be better by default.
Maybe then, he can earn respect, and the money he is paid. Holding fast to run run pass won't get him anywhere. Our run offense even isn't that great, consistently.
If he can't get over 1-9-12, then park the fricking truck and let someone else drive.
Miles needs to buck the "shitty offense" trend and his defense will be better by default.
Maybe then, he can earn respect, and the money he is paid. Holding fast to run run pass won't get him anywhere. Our run offense even isn't that great, consistently.
If he can't get over 1-9-12, then park the fricking truck and let someone else drive.
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