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re: Clinton vs Bush most probable 2016 race
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:49 am to KeyserSoze999
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:49 am to KeyserSoze999
I would definitely vote for Walker. I think he would be a solid President.....he is not afraid to take on unions, that's for damn sure. 
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:01 am to Tigerlaff
I'll be right there with you. It is incomprehensible to me that 60% of any group of people would vote for HRC.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:11 am to mtntiger
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It is incomprehensible to me that 60% of any group of people would vote for HRC.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:13 am to infantry1026
I think the GOP nominee will be someone not on the radar like Gov. Kasich out of Ohio or Scott Walker.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:16 am to DelU249
quote:I am okay with this.
It's going to be Cruz.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:17 am to deltaland
quote:Would be good with either of them as well.
I think the GOP nominee will be someone not on the radar like Gov. Kasich out of Ohio or Scott Walker.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:17 am to Jon Ham
If this becomes reality (it won't) it would be definitive proof that America has lost it's imagination, which might be the worst sin of all.
Clinton? Bush ? 320 million people and that's what we come up with?
Clinton? Bush ? 320 million people and that's what we come up with?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:18 am to Wolfhound45
I hope that both parties will have better candidates than these two. I have had enough of both families
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:28 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Most probable two years out means not really probable in 2016.
This. Predictions this far out never come true.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:54 am to DelU249
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It's going to be Cruz. The sooner everyone accepts this, the better we'll be
He'll crush Clinton BTW
I suspect the democrats are praying for a cruz nomination.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:56 am to Hawkeye95
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I suspect the democrats are praying for a cruz nomination.
Who are they NOT praying for? Who do they fear the most? Who makes them quake in their boots?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:56 am to DeltaDoc
quote:If it's Christie, it'll be the GOP nom nom nom.
I am still not sure who gets the GOP nom
amirite?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:58 am to Zach
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Who are they NOT praying for? Who do they fear the most? Who makes them quake in their boots?
rand paul
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:12 am to Hawkeye95
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I suspect the democrats are praying for a cruz nomination.
I suspect they know there is zero chance it will be Cruz, and thus save their prayers for when they need them - after the conventions.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:18 am to Jon Ham
Don't put too much stock into early polls.
We all thought that Hillary would walk away with the 2008 nomination and that Howard Dean would have beaten Kerry in 2004.
Hillary is a shitty campaigner and Bush suffers from serious foot in mouth disease and having an unpopular last name.
If any alternative to Bush appears viable, I see a bunch of people throwing in with that candidate after he intentionally pissed off his own party's base before even formally declaring his candidacy.
We all thought that Hillary would walk away with the 2008 nomination and that Howard Dean would have beaten Kerry in 2004.
Hillary is a shitty campaigner and Bush suffers from serious foot in mouth disease and having an unpopular last name.
If any alternative to Bush appears viable, I see a bunch of people throwing in with that candidate after he intentionally pissed off his own party's base before even formally declaring his candidacy.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:44 am to Hawkeye95
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Who are they NOT praying for? Who do they fear the most? Who makes them quake in their boots? rand paul
And if I started a thread "Rand Paul leading in recent poll" some liberal would post "The Democrats are praying for Paul to get the nomination."
And this guy would be on TV saying how much the Dems want Paul to be the nominee:
It's just the way it has always been. It's as predictable as a sports talk guy answering a question with 'no doubt about it....'
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:54 am to Zach
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And if I started a thread "Rand Paul leading in recent poll" some liberal would post "The Democrats are praying for Paul to get the nomination."
And this guy would be on TV saying how much the Dems want Paul to be the nominee:
well there is a certain amount of game theory going on with the talking heads, especially if they are democratic operatives. And begala is from the inner clinton circle, so its double dubious.
But I know some democrats that are scared of paul. Cruz does little to appeal to non traditional republican voters, rand paul does. He is actually making a play for the youth and minority vote.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:58 am to teke184
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We all thought that Hillary would walk away with the 2008 nomination
She led easily at this same point in time in 2006, but had nowhere near the numbers she has had in all of these early polls we have seen this time around, where she routinely scores 60+%.
In December of 2006 (the calendar equivalent of this month), there were six major Democratic nomination polls, and Clinton's numbers were (in chronological order):
Marist - 33%
Fox News - 33%
CNN - 37%
ABC/Washington Post - 39%
NBC/Wall St. Journal - 37%
Gallup - 33%
In the same six polls, also in chronological order, Obama had numbers of 12, 12, 15, 17, 18 and 20.
At the same point in time 8 yrs ago, Clinton was nowhere near the overwhelming Dem favorite she is today.
In the first quarter of 2007 (equivalent to the quarter we are about to enter), Obama raised an overall total of $25.8M for his campaign vs $26.0M for Clinton, and easily outdistanced her in terms of cash raised for the primary. A lot of people seem to have forgotten that Obama did not just come out of nowhere in the 2008 process. He was well in the game two years in advance.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:17 pm to NHTIGER
Here's my prediction...the two that are being touted as front runners right now.
Will fade down the stretch and the nominees will be someone we haven't thought of.
Ever hear of Obama before he ran in 08?
Oh and it will be a cold day in hell before I ever consider voting for a fricking Clinton.
Will fade down the stretch and the nominees will be someone we haven't thought of.
Ever hear of Obama before he ran in 08?
Oh and it will be a cold day in hell before I ever consider voting for a fricking Clinton.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:25 pm to Jon Ham
No way in Hell Hillary gets the nomination...her wing of the party (so called moderates) are dead and gone with this last election.
The far left wing owns,operates and dominates the DNC.
The far left wing owns,operates and dominates the DNC.
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