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re: Post office beats UPS and FedEx for packages

Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 9:03 pm to
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Too bad the USPS has to to pay for use of roads & airways. Such a competitive disadvantage *sarcasm*



The United States Post Office is, by statute, exempt from paying state excise taxes on fuel, not that I would know anything about any of that.
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:21 pm to
In my experience, FedEx is the best.

USPS screws everything up, and their customer service and ability to correct their mistakes are pathetic.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50696 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:30 pm to
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UPS handed over a package of mine to USPS for Saturday delivery just a couple of weeks ago and the package fell off the face of the Earth never to be seen again.

Tried to call them and never even got on the phone with anyone. Just sat on hold for half an hour.

Had to just go talk to Amazon.


This exact same thing happened to me this year.
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:08 am to
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Post office beats UPS and FedEx for packages


UPS and FedEx get government subsidies in the form of the interstate high way system, US federal highways, state highways and county and city roads. They also enjoy government services in air-traffic control. So the idea that UPS and FedEx are totally private and get no help from the taxpayers is false. They can also enjoy taxpayer funded courts to help settle disputes they have and tax-payer supported snow plows on roads. So once again they are also parasites.



Do you not understand that public money to build roads and bridges must come from the private sector first, (i,e, corporate, individual, gasoline and sales taxes)? The USPS lost $16 billion in 2013 and should have been shuttered long ago. Why are basic economics so cumbersome for the left?
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 8:17 am
Posted by JoeMoTiger
KC Area
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:09 am to
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This is from consumers reports. In cost and reliability the the USPS beats the so-called better private industry.


How many tax dollars will the USPS need to keep running this year?
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12421 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:04 am to
Let the post office die.

Withdraw its life support.

It's life has no meaning now.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:20 am to
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Amazon Prime. Two day shipping via UPS
Someone hasn't used Amazon Prime in the last two years.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:53 am to
Should you ever initiate a business of your own Ralph, the USPS is the business model you would least want to emulate.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:21 am to
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Someone hasn't used Amazon Prime in the last two years


Use it multiple times a month and 90% of my packages come from UPS in 1 day.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:30 am to
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Use it multiple times a month and 90% of my packages come from UPS in 1 day.
Amazon still uses Fedex/UPS for same-day. But two-day Prime shipping is almost all either straight-up USPS or something like Surepost which is UPS/USPS with USPS doing the last mile. They cut some kind of deal with the USPS that gives them lower rates and Sunday delivery but unfortunately means customers have to deal with random delays covered up with phantom "attempted deliveries." Combine that with the precipitous drop in two-day eligible items and Prime is mainly a streaming service with ancillary shipping benefits, rather than the other way around.

EDIT: I guess Jeff Bezos is lurking on TD I'm far from the only person to make this observation. LINK LINK LINK
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 10:41 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:59 am to
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UPS and FedEx get government subsidies in the form of the interstate high way system, US federal highways, state highways and county and city roads. They also enjoy government services in air-traffic control. So the idea that UPS and FedEx are totally private and get no help from the taxpayers is false.




Either way, it's a beyond-stupid post.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:34 am to
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Does UPS & FedEx have billions on UNFUNDED liabilities in health care and retirement benefits?

You do know that Congress mandated the USPS pre-fund 75 years worth of retirement benefits in only 10 years, right? So, no, UPS and FedEx do not have billions in unfunded liabilities, because Congress is not trying to kill them off.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261531 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:37 am to
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In my experience, FedEx is the best.

USPS screws everything up, and their customer service and ability to correct their mistakes are pathetic.




My experience as well. Fed Ex is the best by far, and UPS and the USPS are about equal in reliability. I can get items as fast with the USPS and I can UPS here, but they both use Alaska Airlines for their cargo locally. Fed Ex has dedicated aircraft.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:47 am to
My wife is a strictly online shopper. We get a package every single day. I asked her about the services over the last 10 years. She ranked them:

Top: UPS
Medium: Fed Ex
Worst: USPS

BTW, ralph, your post on them being subsidized by the govt because they use roads is very cute. Are you gonna vote for Pocahontas?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:57 am to
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Which one is actually profitable? Oh, my bad, that doesn't matter to Communists.

Jesus Christ. The USPS had been profitable for decades (well, intentionally break-even), and would still be so if a certain group of people weren't hellbent on privatizing all the things.

You guys are propping up UPS and FedEx as heroes, and looking at the USPS as a taxpayer dollar money pit, but apparently have zero clue as to what's going on. Congress placed huge liabilities on the USPS that no other entity has to take on, and they also set the price of a stamp. How profitable would UPS and FedEx be if it literally took an act of Congress in order to increase revenue?

So once the dismantlement is complete, and the postal service is sold off, I can assure you that the congressionally mandated liabilities that are preventing the USPS from being self-sufficient will go away. Also, I'm pretty confident that UPS and FedEx (or whoever ends up with the old USPS) will end up getting some sort of government assistance in order to deliver to all of the unprofitable addresses that the USPS currently services.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261531 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:59 am to
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You guys are propping up UPS and FedEx as heroes,


Like lefties do with the USPS? I suppose that's different though..
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Interesting that solvency was not one of the factors considered. I wonder how the USPS would have performed if they had to break even much less not be a parasite on the taxpayers.



This is what makes the idiot communists so comical.

They live in some sort of unicorn land where if I can do something in 2 days for $100 and they can provide in 1.5 days for $1,000,000, they call the latter superior to the former.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11488 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:02 pm to
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In cost and reliability the the USPS beats the so-called better private industry.


Does cost include taxes paid by us that goes to post office?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:04 pm to
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I wonder how the USPS would have performed if they had to break even much less not be a parasite on the taxpayers.
The USPS does break even, and has done so for a long time. The current "parasitic" nature was forced on the USPS by the 2006 Republican Congress.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261531 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:09 pm to
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The USPS does break even, and has done so for a long time. The current "parasitic" nature was forced on the USPS by the 2006 Republican Congress.



Which is the problem with government planning. Market based industry >>> govt funding.
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