re: Good teachers want to teach in good schools

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But that's not fair to the poor, the stupid and the unmotivated. They need the very best teachers so that everyone can be equal.

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You know, I had a gut feeling you were an idiot and that you had a shite education, but I had no evidence and I go on logic and not emotions.

But thanks for clearing it up for everyone that new Iberia puts out fools.

Here's a simple minded task - which of these is doesn't belong.

A. The poor
B. the stupid
C. The unmotivated

Being poor is not the same as the other two. They deserve just as good teachers are others.

But you are b. and couldn't really figure that out. Thought I'd help.

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But you are b. and couldn't really figure that out. Thought I'd help.

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Well, I've never been called 'stupid' IRL. But my wife is convinced that I've got Alzheimers. She may be right. I keep walking into a room to do something and forget what I was there to do.

My girlfriend is an elementary teacher at a minority majority, impoverished, rural elementary school outside of Baton Rouge. She tells me how several of their other teachers graduated college with a low GPA with a degree totally unrelated to education. And some of these have failed sections of the Praxis multiple times but are still allowed to teach with a waiver simply because they can't find anyone qualified who is willing to teach there. My girlfriend went to a private school and it has been quite the culture shock to say the least.

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I was in GT classes.

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i am going to guess that in s. la at the time you were in school, GT meant white kids.

not a knock on you, but that was the reality of the south up until...well now.

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i am going to guess that in s. la at the time you were in school, GT meant white kids.

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IQ tracking started waaaay before integration. There was no such thing as Kindergarten in New Iberia in those days. I started school in 1st grade. All white Dodson Elementary school.

After two weeks I was sitting in Mrs. Moon's first grade class and Mrs. Mestoyer came over with a few kids. They traded. Like a football team. The 6 dumbest kids in my class left. The smartest 6 kids in Mrs. Mestoyer's class came in.

We started reading at hyper speed. I have no idea what they doing in the stupid class.

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In elite High Schools teaching is more difficult

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no

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there will be students in your class who know more about your subject than you do.

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yeah. Because teaching is harder when the students know the material. Those teachers in crap schools got it so easy

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There were black kids in the GT classes at my school in the late 70's/early 80's.

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not mine. 100% white. But I was in the burbs, and my school was probably 75% white to start with.

My wife went to an GT school in LA, her entire class was white/asian except for one black girl.

this was in the 80s

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Here's a simple minded task - which of these is doesn't belong.

A. The poor
B. the stupid
C. The unmotivated

Being poor is not the same as the other two. They deserve just as good teachers are others.

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Hate to break it to you, but

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The poor

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has a high percentage of

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B. the stupid.
C. The unmotivated

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Which is why it belongs in that list. Unfortunately, the unmotivated can be directly attributed to shitty parenting in a majority of cases. Also the "stupid" students in many cases can also be victims of shitty parents not helping them at home. Most kids if given attention can learn, it's just getting through behavior issues, home issues, and culture issues to get them to want to learn.

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Good points but there is one problem with that. Let's say you have a masters in Lit and want to teach English. Your expertise is Shakespeare. You are of no value in a bad school with students who cannot read nor write.

If you forced that kind of teacher into that situation they would burn out because they want to teach their subject.

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I also agree with that.

I'm referring more to the fact that proven, capable and experienced teachers are sent to schools were teaching is not very difficult because they are teaching hand-picked students who want to learn.

Meanwhile the same school districts send beginning and struggling teachers to the worse schools and are many times eaten up alive because they don't have the experience or skill to deal with that type of situation.

It leads to many young teachers simply giving up way too early and tired of fighting every step of the way. I was in education for 6 years. I was tired of teaching in schools and getting zero support from the administration. For the pay and headache it wasn't worth it.

I taught social studies and had a principal tell the students before the school year that "You must pass Math and English on the LEAP, you do not have to pass social studies to advance to high school". It was at a failing school and literally killed me before the year started.

I witnessed many very capable young teachers give up after a year or two because of things like that. When there is better money to be made elsewhere with less headache there is little reason to stay in education.

I also won't claim I was the worlds best teach either as I'll admit I had a great deal to improve on. I will say that I worked my arse off to try and improve and be the best teacher I could.