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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital

Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:16 am to
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I think we are talking past each other somewhat.

Until the moment you pick up that shell it is just a belief.

In that present moment and thereafter where the ball was is a fact.

1/1000th of a second before you verify it, it is still just a belief.

Let's consider a drug test. Bob smoked weed last week and none of his coworkers know it. They don't think he smokes weed because he doesn't seem like the type.

Bob gets called in for a drug test. It's a fact that he smoked weed and will fail the test, but his coworkers believe that he will pass. The fact exists contemporaneously with the false belief that Bob will pass the test.

"Belief" and "fact" don't necessarily have to occupy distinct moments in time. There can be a fact, and a belief about the fact.

At least that's how I look at it.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:18 am
Posted by Porkchop Express
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:19 am to
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Let's consider a drug test. Bob smoked weed last week and none of his coworkers know it. They don't think he smokes weed because he doesn't seem like the type. Bob gets called in for a drug test. It's a fact that he smoked weed and will fail the test, but his coworkers believe that he will pass. "Belief" and "fact" don't necessarily have to occupy distinct moments in time. There can be a fact, and a belief about the fact. At least that's how I look at it.


In this scenario it is a belief that Bob will fail his drug test.

Until the results are verified at a distinct moment in time it is just a belief.
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