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Is hockey as violent as football?

Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:54 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:54 am
If so, why don't we hear more about concussions/injuries?
How long until hockey players start filing lawsuits?
Is it because most hockey players are foreign and don't have a sense of entitlement that Americans have?

I find hockey to be more violent than football myself but the players never seem to complain, maybe this is because espn doesn't blow it up like for football, maybe at lower levels hockey is better at protecting players, what is your opinion?
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:59 am to
I think it may be that it's easier to monitor for potential concussion causing hits/injuries in hockey. Refs are always on the lookout for anything that looks close to intent to the head in the NHL. Football refs are getting there, but it's still hard to monitor because even the most natural type of hits can cause head damage for the person tackling/getting hit.

In hockey, most natural hits seem to be all body. Therefore it's easier to tell when they involve the head/possible concussion.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:27 am to
Hockey is not nearly as violent as football. No sport is or is even close.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:39 am to
Because ESPN doesn't care about hockey. The NHL has made a lot of changes in the past few years to try and stop hits to the head.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:44 am to
Also, there's usually just 2 types of injuries in hockey: upper and lower body. Teams don't like to go into more detail than that.
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
Member since Nov 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:53 am to
quote:

why don't we hear more about concussions/injuries?

The speed of football players > the speed of hockey players. It's not a matter of toughness, it's a matter of the extra force football players can generate due to their athleticism and larger playing surface.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:18 am to
I love when non-hockey fans wake up and realize hockey exists and try to make salient points that are grossly misinformed. It's cute. To answer the questions.

quote:

Is hockey as violent as football?

Yes and no. But they don't have tackling and the real problem in football, the repeated stress of linemen bashing their heads into each other after every play.

quote:

If so, why don't we hear more about concussions/injuries?

Because you don't listen. There was this Eric Lindros guy who was sort of famous in the 1990s who had his career derailed by concussions. Hockey's most famous player right now, Sidney Crosby, has had a string of concussions. He even missed nearly a full season due to head injuries.


quote:

How long until hockey players start filing lawsuits?


They already have.


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Is it because most hockey players are foreign and don't have a sense of entitlement that Americans have?

I like when we look to a bunch of socialists for toughness. I mean, the NHL is full of Canadians, Scandanavians, and Russians.

But it's not that they are tougher (though hockey players are really f'n tough, a guy scored a game winning goal last week with his face smeared with his own blood because he lost part of his ear earlier in the game). It's that the NHL has actually been somewhat proactive regarding head injuries instead of just going the NFL "deny everything" tact.

Every head shot is reviewed by the league and suspensions are given by a designated office. They even release a video to explain their decisions. Repeat offenders get longer suspensions and there is a certain point at which you'll be banned from the league (though if Matt Cooke is still allowed to play, I don't think that will ever happen).

Also, fighting has been almost completely scrubbed from the game. There's still some holdouts, but the era of every team carrying a goon on the end of the bench has long since passed. the culture of the game changed, with the voluntary support of the players. Oh, and Scott Stevens retired, lowering head injuries by about 50%.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:47 am to
The hardest hits in hockey can match the hardest hits in football, but they are much less frequent in hockey. There are hard hits on every single NFL play.
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