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LSU total Offense Ranks in SEC since 2005

Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:51 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:51 am
Take them for what you will but, let's face it, you don't want to put these numbers next to other guys making around his salary.

You can argue that overall, he's a good coach, but that he's rough on offenses seems to be sort of obvious. ESPECIALLY as time progressed.

2005 3rd
2006 2nd
2007 1st
2008 5th
2009 11th
2010 11th
2011 4th
2012 10th
2013 7th
2014 11th
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:54 am to
quote:

2005 3rd
2006 2nd
2007 1st
2008 5th
2009 11th
2010 11th
2011 4th
2012 10th
2013 7th
2014 11th

I assume that is conference rank and not national. I would suggest you use the national ranking if you really want to make your point.
Posted by SpanishFortTiger
Spanish Fort, Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
1662 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:56 am to
Using this argument, the 2007 offense was better than the 2013 quad. If you got to pick, which one would you rather have?
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20408 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:01 am to
2008 and all those Pick 6's scarred Les
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3252 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:04 am to
Nationally our 5 year average is 74.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8184 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

you don't want to put these numbers next to other guys making around his salary.


So in 6 out of 10 years, the offense has been in the top half of the conference?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66878 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:59 am to
QB has been an issue.

1. QB Recruiting: you can't say they haven't been trying, but there just has been nothing in this department. I haven't given up on brandon harris, but still from RP to brandon harris we had a lot of busts and misses. We need to get a guy every year who is willing to sit 2 years before he starts. That is the only way to have consistency at the position.

2. QB development.
Crowton sucked at it, Krag probably wasn't 100% and Stud was an Oline guy. I am definitely not willing to give up Cam.

I think Eventually Cam will bring stability to the position.
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1652 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:29 am to
The main point you make is sound.

First: We have the #1 ranked Highest paid total coaching staff in the nation and are #74 nationally in offense for the last 5 years.

Second: The trends are not up and in a positive direction. Not Wins, total offense, nothing.

Conclusion: Something has to change. We cannot continue to do the same things and expect different results. What's also adding to the frustration is seeing other programs that are improving and trending in the right direction such as Miss. St. Ole Miss, etc. and we seem to be treading water at best.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:04 pm to
By the way. I would like to point out that I said way back in 2011-2012 that his handling of that situation was so darned egregiously bad and shitty that it may well lead to us having issues at that position going forward. That some kids would most certainly take a peek at that and blink on the recruiting trail and that opposing coaches would absolutely use it against us on the trail.

Now. One will never prove causation but, apparently, in the time since then, we managed to recruit so damned badly that the best thing we have to roll onto the field right now is arguably the worst QB in major college football.

Just sayin.......
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6799 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:05 pm to
I am not a miles hater but very disappointed with his failure to play the best he has. Welter. J J and A J are perfect examples
He refuses to use common sense. And if u think he is a great coach. I value your opinion. But????
Posted by TopsInAmericaTim
Houston Area
Member since Oct 2011
1403 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:28 pm to
Some of this could be the Perrilloux effect. Notice how well we did first year of Crowton, first year of Stud and first year of Cam... Something happens between year one and year two with Les and the OC's... "I'm thinking we need to make a few adjustments this year..."
Posted by LACountyTiger
Los Angeles County
Member since Nov 2013
1338 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:13 pm to
Is this accurate?

The JJ/JL show in 2011 was the 4th best offense in the SEC that year? Hard to believe
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10484 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:30 pm to
These are scoring offenses, which don't necessarily tell the whole story.

For example, in 2011, LSU was 86th in total offense nationally, 6th in the SEC, and only 3 SEC teams were in the top 73 on offense that season.

Everyone with a brain knows how horrible SEC defenses were last year. It wasn't a fluke that everyone in the SEC had pretty damn good offenses, and LSU still only managed middle of the road, yet everyone slobbers over last year's offense.

But yeah, he's great overall.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:44 pm to
or the 100000th time. Lsu doesnt run a hurry up. Yards per play and points per play are afar better indication of an offenses success. 2005, 2006,2007,2011,2013 our offense was fine.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:30 pm to
Making great use of all those great recruiting classes
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/13/14 at 7:45 am to
LSU rankings yards per play

2005 - NCAA 42 SEC 3 
2006 - NCAA 5 SEC 1 
2007 - NCAA 27 SEC 3 
2008 - NCAA 61 SEC 6 
2009 - NCAA 85 SEC 9 
2010 - NCAA 66 SEC 10 
2011 - NCAA 34 SEC 3 
***SEC Expansion 
2012 - NCAA 71 SEC 9 
2013 - NCAA 11 SEC 3 
2014 - NCAA 80 SEC 9 

# of Yrs. at LSU for QB 
2 - '08, '09, '12, '14 
3 - '05, '10, '13 
4 - '06, '11 
5 - '07 
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 7:47 am
Posted by PG
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2012
2590 posts
Posted on 12/13/14 at 11:18 am to
4 of the last 6 years are close to bottom of the SEC - 2 other years in middle of SEC
Coincidence that AL is playing for 4 of the last 6 national championships while we have 4 of the last 6 bottom dwellars on offense in the SEC??
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