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Help me pick mine and the GF's new carry guns
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:55 pm
Pick 2 of the 3. Give me some details. Money ain't a thing. If two of the same is the best bet then so be it. But I enjoy variety.
1. Glock 42 .380
2. Kahr PM9
3. Beretta PX4 Storm
I was very excited about the glock for her but have read some awful reviews. Anyone have one?
The Kahr is something I am not familiar with so details on that would be great.
I have a Beretta 90-two but it's too big to carry. I love it and it's fun to shoot so that Is why I asked about the PX4.
Sorry no pics on the lady.
I appreciate any input.
1. Glock 42 .380
2. Kahr PM9
3. Beretta PX4 Storm
I was very excited about the glock for her but have read some awful reviews. Anyone have one?
The Kahr is something I am not familiar with so details on that would be great.
I have a Beretta 90-two but it's too big to carry. I love it and it's fun to shoot so that Is why I asked about the PX4.
Sorry no pics on the lady.
I appreciate any input.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:56 pm to BallCoachinFool
I vote none of those
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:00 pm to BallCoachinFool
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Sorry no pics on the lady.
Sorry no help on the guns.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:04 pm to BallCoachinFool
Those are awful options, I'll say two Kahrs if I had to pick from that list.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:13 pm to BallCoachinFool
what she working with in the small of her back? She got some concealing booty going on?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:01 pm to BallCoachinFool
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Give me some details
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1. Glock 42 .380
In my humble opinion, this one is too big dimensionally for a 380. You can get an equally powerful 380 (same length barrel) in pocket-sized form. The only upside to a larger 380 is less felt recoil. So if you have wrist issues or your wife is extremely recoil sensitive (something that training can fix) it would be an okay choice.
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2. Kahr PM9
I essentially have this gun in the Kahr CM9. It is dimensionally identical to my PM9 with only a few different details. It has been a great firearm for me (3000+ rounds) and is with me quite often. The upside to this gun is that it's a single stack pistol and probably the smallest reliable 9mm on the market. The downside is that with a single stack gun you get less ammo capacity. But with this reduced capacity you get thinness, which equals comfort.
That's all concealed carry is - a balancing act between capacity and comfort.
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3. Beretta PX4 Storm
If you're talking about a full sized gun, I would not get this for carry. The fact that it's a full sized gun is a downside, plus it has a slide-mounted safety which comes with its own quirks.
Ultimately the decision is up to you. Only you can hold each one and feel which is right. You also left a lot of good options off your list (Shield, XDs9, etc.). So asking for a suggestion is good, but buying it is another thing.
Also, let your wife pick HER OWN gun. She will be more likely to actually use it if she selects it. If she has not fired a lot of handguns before, start her on a full sized 9mm or 22 to learn how to handle recoil and muzzle blast. Tiny guns are NOT fun to shoot. They serve a specific purpose - portability.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:06 pm to BallCoachinFool
I say replace the PM9 with two CM9s.
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Money is not a thing for you, but a sexy Concealed gun is well....concealed. A pm9 is almost $300 more for nicer slide machining, polygonal barrel and an extra mag.
I'm not a fan of G42 since it is .380. If I had to take .380, it would be the smallest i could find....maybe a Ruger LCP.
If money ain't a thing, as you say.....maybe you could put a Kimber Solo in that mix. It's only an ounce heavier than a PM9.
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Money is not a thing for you, but a sexy Concealed gun is well....concealed. A pm9 is almost $300 more for nicer slide machining, polygonal barrel and an extra mag.
I'm not a fan of G42 since it is .380. If I had to take .380, it would be the smallest i could find....maybe a Ruger LCP.
If money ain't a thing, as you say.....maybe you could put a Kimber Solo in that mix. It's only an ounce heavier than a PM9.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:23 pm to BallCoachinFool
A. Scratch .380's from your list. No matter what else you read or hear, the 9mm is not just a little better, it's a lot better (more effective) at stopping bad guys.
B. There are a lot of good reasons to get both guns with the same operating controls/manual of arms. Mixing guns with manual safety (like the Beretta) with guns having no external safety isn't a great idea.
C. Scratch guns with manual (external) safeties from your list -- unless she tends to fiddle around with guns. If that's the case, scratch her from the list until she gets a lesson in gun safety and some experience.
D. Not sure how you formulated your list. But RELIABILITY should be your primary (and secondary, and tertiary) concern. For out-of-the-box reliability you should focus on Glocks, M&P's and H-K's. Kahrs are fine guns, but require several hundred rounds through them for break-in (according to the owner's manual).
E. Do not base your choice on reviews in gun magazines, reviews on youtube (probably the worst option of all), and opinions expressed on this or any other internet forum. Go find out out what law enforcement agencies issue -- this is usually your best clue as to reliability.
F. After you narrow your list to three or four makes of reliable guns, you can pick based on your personal preferences, or can just go "eeny, meeny, miney, mo."
G. My comments qualify as free internet advice, so you can ignore it as well.
B. There are a lot of good reasons to get both guns with the same operating controls/manual of arms. Mixing guns with manual safety (like the Beretta) with guns having no external safety isn't a great idea.
C. Scratch guns with manual (external) safeties from your list -- unless she tends to fiddle around with guns. If that's the case, scratch her from the list until she gets a lesson in gun safety and some experience.
D. Not sure how you formulated your list. But RELIABILITY should be your primary (and secondary, and tertiary) concern. For out-of-the-box reliability you should focus on Glocks, M&P's and H-K's. Kahrs are fine guns, but require several hundred rounds through them for break-in (according to the owner's manual).
E. Do not base your choice on reviews in gun magazines, reviews on youtube (probably the worst option of all), and opinions expressed on this or any other internet forum. Go find out out what law enforcement agencies issue -- this is usually your best clue as to reliability.
F. After you narrow your list to three or four makes of reliable guns, you can pick based on your personal preferences, or can just go "eeny, meeny, miney, mo."
G. My comments qualify as free internet advice, so you can ignore it as well.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:25 pm to BallCoachinFool
If either of you has to use one of your guns do you have the name and number of an attorney you can call right then? Day or night?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:51 pm to BallCoachinFool
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2. Kahr PM9
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3. Beretta PX4 Storm
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:53 pm to BallCoachinFool
We need a picture of her backside to make a determination
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:04 pm to BallCoachinFool
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Help me pick mine and the GF's new carry guns
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Also, let your GF pick HER OWN gun
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:05 pm to BallCoachinFool
chick - a small hammerless revolver, if it's in her purse there's no reason to worry about a misfire because the slide catches, etc.
dude - hard not to recommend a 3" kimber .45 - they're so slim, lightweight...but the price may be a huge turnoff.
dude - hard not to recommend a 3" kimber .45 - they're so slim, lightweight...but the price may be a huge turnoff.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:51 pm to BallCoachinFool
I carry a S&W shield 9mm or an M&P 9c. They are both easy to carry very reliable and are very accurate. I like Glocks but for some reason I shoot the M&P series guns much better. Make sure whatever you decide to carry that you are 100% comfortable with its reliability and your ability to hit your target.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:14 am to BallCoachinFool
Thanks for all the information. I learned about a lot of guns I was unaware of.
She will learn to shoot whatever I get her. She has only shot 1 other time so she is clueless.
Dad is in federal law enforcement and has a gun expert in office. They are gonna give me more information.
I really appreciate all the comments.
I just want something small that is comfortable for me. Hers will probably go into a purse and only be pulled out when i tell her to. I can shoot anything. Just wanted to see what you dudes said.
Yall the best.
She will learn to shoot whatever I get her. She has only shot 1 other time so she is clueless.
Dad is in federal law enforcement and has a gun expert in office. They are gonna give me more information.
I really appreciate all the comments.
I just want something small that is comfortable for me. Hers will probably go into a purse and only be pulled out when i tell her to. I can shoot anything. Just wanted to see what you dudes said.
Yall the best.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:21 am to BallCoachinFool
If you get her a semi automatic pistol you better make sure she can work the slide with no problem, becasue "IF" it jams and she doesn't have the strength in her hands to rack the slide....she will be in a bad situation. I would either get a 357 that I also shoot 38sp in or just a 38sp.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:05 pm to BallCoachinFool
The Khar is a nice pistol but I find it to have a heave trigger pull, which can throw your shot off target. I would pass on the PX4 storm. As the others have said the Springfield XDS, and the M&P shield by Smith and wesson are very nice. I also carry a glock 26 or glock 19. Both are concealable in my pocket or an inside the waistband holster.
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