re: So was Garner put in a choke hold or not?

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A guy was brutalized for selling cigarettes....think about that for a bit.

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I definitely think the cops went overboard, and I work in mental health and we handle mentally ill men this guys size in take downs quite often. I will say that although we are trained in procedures/maneuvers to use, it NEVER goes the way we are trained. I know of patients that have died during take downs, due to health issues every time, and every one was overweight like this guy. Any one who calls this any form of premeditated murder is full of crap. It was a terrible accident and quite possibly a crime was committed by one or more of the officers. The waving at he camera by the officer was extremely unprofessional and would definitely get you fired in my profession. In any case let the legal system and the experts work that out, not a bunch of self-righteous on a message board.

With that said, the line I quoted "A guy was brutalized for selling cigarettes....think about that for a bit." is just wrong. He was 'brutalized' as you call it, for resisting arrest. He even gave his intention before hands were placed on him. Had he just capitulated and placed his hands behind his back and got arrested for the 31st time he would still be alive today. And that is truly tragic.