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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 3:48 pm to
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Criminals will get guns regardless. The problem is taking guns from people who could stop them

Sorry but Europe/Australia disagrees with you. In UK, only 14 people died of gunshot wounds last year.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 3:49 pm to
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Sorry but Europe/Australia disagrees with you. In UK, only 14 people died of gunshot wounds last year


To be fair, there are WAAAAY more guns already in circulation than there.

It would take a long, long, long time to reduce the availability of guns to an appreciable extent
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14062 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 3:53 pm to
Well of course it was lower in Europe and Australia, Guns are illegal. However what is the crime like in Europe and Australia that doesn't involve a firearm? Look up those stats and report back.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 3:55 pm to
and it is pretty hilarious when you look beyond their "gun violence" statistics

immediately after both countries passed gun bans, crime went up and their violent crime decreases at a lower rate than in the United States

quote:

In UK, only 14 people died of gunshot wounds last year.


you have to be an imbecile, in denial, or a dishonest agenda driven slimeball to be wowed by this stat.


Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22850 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 3:58 pm to
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Sorry but Europe/Australia disagrees with you. In UK, only 14 people died of gunshot wounds last year


Differences in population compared to the U.S., and you are referring to two islands as opposed to the size of the U.S. At one point, the UK was trying to ban pointy knives (not sure if this law passed though) because the crazy Brits started stabbing each other.

Plus, the Brits are used to being treated more like Subjects than citizens.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19489 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:05 pm to
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In UK, only 14 people died of gunshot wounds last year


Link? The UK Office for national statistics says that there were 29 gun homicides in 2012-13 and 40 in 2011-12. However, did you know that England and Wales don't count homicides in which someone hasn't been convicted?
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:28 pm to
The UK has a higher violent crime rate.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:29 pm to
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In UK, only 14 people died of gunshot wounds last yea


I couldn't find anything more recent but here are the figures for 2007:

Australia: 30 homicides by firearms; Number of firearms: 3,050,000

Canada: 173 homicides by firearms; Number of firearms: 9,950,000

England: 41 homicides by firearms; Number of firearms: 3,400,000

Honduras: 5201 homicides by firearms; Number of firearms: 500,000

US: 9,146 homicides by firearms; Number of firearms: 270,000,000

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people

• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people

• Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:07 pm to
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Sorry but Europe/Australia disagrees with you. In UK, only 14 people died of gunshot wounds last year.


Wowzers
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:57 pm to
No King or President since Lincoln--not even LBJ--has marched an army into a US state and took over.

Contrast that with Europe and Latin America.
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