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re: What would North America be like today had the American Indians been left alone?

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Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:01 am to
my bad, half a millennia ago. Still suffering from Thanksgiving booze.


My point still holds true though.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:12 am to
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They were more advanced half a century ago than many current societies around the world



Ok I'll bite, name just one.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:33 am to
Before white man come buffalo run free, deer run free, red man run free. Everything and everyone always running. Now buffalo on nickel, deer in headlights and red man in a pouch.

Judge for self.

Disney Studios partially addressed this in 1953:
LINK
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:44 am to
I'm just glad the aliens chose the white man to give the high tech stuff to.

When they visited the pre-white man Americas, they just left them with a "you're not ready yet, carve us some cool miles-long glyphs so we can find you when we come back".
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:46 am to
Thanks, been many moons since I saw that.
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:49 am to
Plenty of undeveloped societies in the pacific islands and Africa, and really all around the world. To say they would be the most uncivilized society on Earth today, when looking at what they had already accomplished 500 years ago is pretty far off IMO.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:53 am to
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Plenty of undeveloped societies in the pacific islands and Africa, and really all around the world. To say they would be the most uncivilized society on Earth today, when looking at what they had already accomplished 500 years ago is pretty far off IMO.



Not one of which lags behind Mayan or Aztec civilization.

Guess my first impression was correct
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:01 am to
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Not one of which lags behind Mayan or Aztec civilization. 


If you want to get particular, yes there are many tribes throughout the pacific islands, South America, Africa, Australia, Asia that lag behind them still.

Even if not, using societies that today are more advanced than what they were 500 YEARS AGO, is very shortsighted IMO. We're talking about what they would be like today, not how they were 500 years ago.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:06 am to
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I hope you don't really believe this. What part of looking at the ancient Mayans and Aztecs makes you believe this? They were more advanced half a century ago than many current societies around the world. With another 500 or so years under their belt who knows how advanced they'd be today.



You typed this nonsense not me
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:14 am to
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They were more advanced half a century ago than many current societies around the world.


They had a kick arse calendar. They also had yet to invent the fricking wheel. Pump the brakes, son
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:33 am to
And I corrected it. If your only argument on this topic is that I had a slip of the mind and made an error, then I know you have nothing else to back up your original argument, and I'll be in my way.
Posted by mauser
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:37 am to
They gave us Tomahawk cruise missles,

Apache helicopters and

Conga lines
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:40 am to
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If you want to get particular, yes there are many tribes throughout the pacific islands, South America, Africa, Australia, Asia that lag behind them still.



3rd chance, name just one or STFU and go suck your moms tits on your day off school. Every single statement you have made has been horseshite and everyone who reads them can tell.
Posted by TigerTattle
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:53 am to




j/k
Posted by Tigerwaffe
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:04 am to
Big Macs would be Buffalo Burgers.
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:06 am to
Go Google Papa New Guinea. I'm not gonna sit here and try to educate you about indigenous tribes around the world. You're obviously pretty small minded by looking at the way you resort to ad hominem attacks when challenged.
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:17 am to
More buffalo
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:19 am to
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What would North America be like today had the American Indians been left alone?
Europeans stayed home and the Natives been left to their own devices way back when. What would the continent be like today?


Also, some European companies would likely have very lucrative big game hunting and excursion packages to the continent. Of course they would compensate their native american employees er, partners, well in beads and such.

Mark Burnett would probably have had Survivor shows based at what we now call Key West, Galveston, Alcatraz and Aspen by now. And maybe a misguided one based someplace like Phoenix or Albuquerque.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:29 am to
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Go Google Papa New Guinea. I'm not gonna sit here and try to educate you about indigenous tribes around the world. You're obviously pretty small minded by looking at the way you result to ad hominem attacks when challenged.


Still can't name one can you
Posted by Sleazy E
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:31 am to
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it would be like africa


No it would not. Africa is filled with lazy, worthless trash looking for hand outs rather than finding ways to improve their lives. The Indians were skilled hunters, good farmers, and lived by a common code. They lacked the technological advancements of the Europeans but by now I'm sure they would have gotten with the program.
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