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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:48 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:48 am to
The early Will Hill call, that completely terrible "reception" call (he bobbled it the entire time), the brutally bad roughing the passer call are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:49 am to
quote:

The early Will Hill call, that completely terrible "reception" call (he bobbled it the entire time), the brutally bad roughing the passer call are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
all correct calls
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:51 am to
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The early Will Hill call,


It shouldn't have been illegal use of the hands. I thought it was easily illegal contact live though if he was past 10 yards. I'll need to take a look at it on NFL Rewind.

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that completely terrible "reception" call (he bobbled it the entire time),


That was really close. He had possession when he rolled over right when his knee was hitting out but his elbow was in. I'll reserve my judgement when I see it on NFL Rewind. Live I thought he was out.

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the brutally bad roughing the passer call




That was undoubtedly roughing the passer. Do I like the rule? No. It is absolutely roughing the passer in the NFL today. He stepped into him and made contact above the neck and into his chin/facemask
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:53 am
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:51 am to
Hitting the QB's helmet will get a penalty every time. Even a slight hand slapping downwards on the QB's helmet will get called.

We have that called against us a whole lot (Akiem Hicks)
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:02 am to
That was absolutely roughing the passer, he was late and put his helmet in the chin of Brees. That's a penalty every damn time
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:59 am to
They finally put the game up on Rewind

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The early Will Hill call


Weak call? Probably. Was the call incorrect or wrong? Absolutely not. He initiated contact with Graham's facemask and forced it upwards. That gets called a good bit.

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that completely terrible "reception" call (he bobbled it the entire time),


Definitely shouldn't be described as "completely terrible". There certainly isn't indisputable evidence to show that he didn't have control of the ball (required to overturn it) since the defender blocked the view of the ball as his leg was hitting out of bounds from 1 angle, and Stills rolls around on the other, and it looks like he has possession from the original press box angle.

From the angle coming from the LOS, it looks like he has control, but then he rolls covering the ball as he goes out of bounds, so you can't tell if he has control or not. There isn't anything to disprove the call though. Also, since he lost control in the process of going to the ground, possession occurs as soon as he regains control even if he can't maintain it. It is a part of the rule

Hands over the ball with an elbow inbounds as he lands out.


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the brutally bad roughing the passer call are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.


That may have been the easiest call to make this year. 2 yards away when the ball was released which makes it a penalty. A blow to the head/neck area (right in the chin here) which makes it a penalty, and the initial contact was a launching motion with his helmet making the initial contact. Violated 3 separate parts of the rule.

The False Start on Armstead was also a blown call, but they always call that BS that way. He doesn't simulate a snap in anyway.

The holding on the PT run was ticky tack, but I can see it getting called (Baltimore had 0 called in the game). Set up the pick 6

The officiating crew was just terrible. There is no excuse for blowing that PI call. The 2nd ref who through the flag did it after waiving incomplete too. You should be able to challenge that. Perfect coverage and their feet hit. Also should have been intentional grounding on the next play. He threw the ball about 40 feet away from his player near the LOS, 10 yards downfield, and a few yards out of bounds to avoid a sack.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 3:16 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:45 pm to
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The early Will Hill call, that completely terrible "reception" call (he bobbled it the entire time), the brutally bad roughing the passer call are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.


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