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re: Why do most conservatives embrace a lack of evidence re: climate change but not religion?

Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:48 am to
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That doesn't make sense


To you, and only because to accept it would invalidate claims of Biblical authority.

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That's the very definition of foresight.


The foresight to have the most important event in human history be witnessed by a few thousand largely illiterate and superstitious people in first century Judea?

To believe that shows foresight by an omnipotent deity reveals a complete disregard for intellectual honesty. On no other matter would you consider something like that to be anything deity requires a complete disregard for more than nonsense. You simply do not judge your faith using the same standard you use for everything else.

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Christianity was significant enough by the 60s that Caligula and Nero thought it was worth persecuting


Largely a myth, Christian persecution is significantly overstated by Christian historians. There are multiple Roman accounts of Christians coming to them ASKING to be martyred and being turned away. Outside of a very short and specific periods, the Romans largely ignored Christianity.

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There's a much more direct link to Judaism. The Eucharist is the central feature of Mass and it comes from the Last Supper, which was a Seder meal.



The robes priests wear is very similar to what pagan priests wore. The monstrance is nearly identical to their idols for sun worship. The sequence of the latin mass was used specifically to entice pagans to join because it was essentially their worship format. The original monuments to Mary were converted pagan goddess statues taken from sacked temples. And so on and so forth.

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It wasn't written after the exile. Older writings were collected in one place and canonized after the exile. Kings and Chronicles were obviously written after the return from exile, but those are condensed versions of historical records that were extant at the time. The authors simply highlighted the most important points of each reign and placed them in a theological context--and each passage ends with "the rest of the acts of _____ are written in..." or similar wording. Further, a lot of the kings are mentioned in the records of neighboring civilizations. Hazael is an example--he backed Jehu's coup against the house of Omri and (as he often did) pumped up his contribution to the result.


This is simply an incorrect history of past events, nothing more. From the earliest books the Bible, there is a mish mash of mono and polytheism and it only became strictly monotheistic around 400-500 BC.

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As far as flood myths, those are almost universal and there's a good reason for that.


Yeah, all old world civilizations arose next to bodies of water, many of which are known for their devastating periodic floods (The Tigris and Euphrates, the Nile, the Yellow River, etc.)

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Which, to get back to the OP's question, proves there must have been even more SUVs 10,000 years ago than there are today, because there was a catastrophic, widespread flood as a result.






I laughed
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:50 pm to
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To you, and only because to accept it would invalidate claims of Biblical authority.


I don't get your point here. It's like you honestly believe it would have made more sense for OT prophets to write in modern English or Mandarin Chinese in order to deliver a message to the ancient Hebrews?

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The robes priests wear is very similar to what pagan priests wore.


As well as what Hebrews wore. And Greeks. And Romans....pretty much everyone. Pants are a modern invention.
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