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re: Why do most conservatives embrace a lack of evidence re: climate change but not religion?

Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:57 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:57 am to
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Thus a creator who wished us to recognize him or his manifestations (such as NDE) would either have to give us an objective means of realizing what was occurring, or make the entire system subjectively faith based. The former is obviously not reality, and the latter leaves the most important thing in a person's life up to largely chance.


To expand upon this point: Jesus said that "his kingdom is not of this world". Both Love and Beauty are Spiritual concepts; "subjectively faith-based". For some, they color life wonderfully beyond their fondest expectations. For others, these ideas - and the power therein - simply do not exist in an objective/empirical sense. Like the Biblical analogy of the wind...witnessed only in the affect it has on other things.

"Largely chance". Not for this Reality surfer. At a particular point in my life...I WILLFULLY CHOSE to validate the idea of God, Love and Beauty, and singulary - above all other values - seek to strengthen these ideas with the force of my will. And of course, with the (objectively)subtle power of Christ's mercy, and any *supernatural* influence such may have on the Universal Law in regard to my belief, action...and the Universal reaction therein.

But I know what you imply, RK. Surely it is 'chance', looking forward; as the action/reaction dynamics are virtually incalculable, and existentially/relatively uncontrollable. Again...the Good Book: "sewn in corruption...raised incorruptible".

Once we rise to a level of real comprehension, I.e., the acquisition of Knowledge...Knowledge is Power. Power to control. Even, and most likely, the most core aspect of our existence.

The ball is truly in our court. We are not slaves; only as much as we remain ignorant. We are heirs. To a gift beyond our greatest dreams. Today's dreams...are tomorrow's reality.

More crazy stuff.

Thank you Jesus.

Gotta go build the inside shower; for the wife mostly. Been showering on the back deck for 35 years; time to move it in, since Global cooling is on the prowl.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
46543 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:24 am to
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And of course, with the (objectively)subtle power of Christ's mercy


This is really the crux of the argument. I spent 20 years as a practicing Christian and never had a single objective experience regarding God, Jesus or anything else associated with Christianity. I spent the last several years specifically asking for something of the sort to aid my belief which continued to wane the more I studied and sought answers.

In hindsight, everything I was experiencing was a subjective emotional experience which can be generated by almost anything.

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Gotta go build the inside shower; for the wife mostly. Been showering on the back deck for 35 years; time to move it in, since Global cooling is on the prowl


Good luck
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