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re: No wonder medical cost or so high...
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:08 am to cuyahoga tiger
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:08 am to cuyahoga tiger
I remember a few years back when my wife's employer switched everyone to an HDHP. The talking point they said over and over was a variation of "When all you pay is a small co-pay, you don't know what the actual cost is, so you have no incentive to control costs. When you know what the actual cost is, and are responsible for it or a portion of it, you are more likely to take actions to control costs".
The issue is, as you saw, that's not how healthcare works. With the exception of some basic tests and shots, it's very hard to get an actual cost of something ahead of time. Because the "rack rate" listed by the doctor is so much bullshite. In reality, medicare decides what they will pay, the insurance companies use the medicare amounts to negotiate with the doctors as to what they will pay, and that's what they pay.
I mean, imagine if when you got in an accident, you went to get your car fixed, and you asked them for an estimate, and they told you, well, the price you are charged depends on what auto insurance company you have, or, if you are a cash payer. It's insane.
The issue is, as you saw, that's not how healthcare works. With the exception of some basic tests and shots, it's very hard to get an actual cost of something ahead of time. Because the "rack rate" listed by the doctor is so much bullshite. In reality, medicare decides what they will pay, the insurance companies use the medicare amounts to negotiate with the doctors as to what they will pay, and that's what they pay.
I mean, imagine if when you got in an accident, you went to get your car fixed, and you asked them for an estimate, and they told you, well, the price you are charged depends on what auto insurance company you have, or, if you are a cash payer. It's insane.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yup, I had a HDHP which my employer has now gotten rid of.
Broke my finger playing flag football reliving the glory days.
No you cannot find out the price in advance, I tried
Not like it "matters," the bill was going to be over the $3,000 deductible any ways after surgery, so I was going to be out the same amount regardless at that point.
Who really probably got screwed was the insurance company (and its customers). Over $20,000 for 1 hour surgery and to go under. I mentioned that once on this site and some guy supposedly familiar with the industry mentioned it was definitely high, but what is anybody going to do about it?
Broke my finger playing flag football reliving the glory days.
No you cannot find out the price in advance, I tried
Not like it "matters," the bill was going to be over the $3,000 deductible any ways after surgery, so I was going to be out the same amount regardless at that point.
Who really probably got screwed was the insurance company (and its customers). Over $20,000 for 1 hour surgery and to go under. I mentioned that once on this site and some guy supposedly familiar with the industry mentioned it was definitely high, but what is anybody going to do about it?
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:47 am to LSUFanHouston
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Because the "rack rate" listed by the doctor is so much bullshite.
I think people view doctors fees as bullshite because normally they only see them in their office during business hours.
I can't tell you how many doctors have treated my son at 3am, at 7am after pulling 48 hours shifts, on holidays, including Thanksgiving and Christmas.
I understand their fee structure and appreciate the hell out of it.
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