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re: AD's just unreal (PER, ortg, drtg, vorp)
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:45 pm to Lambchops11
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:45 pm to Lambchops11
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What do you think is an appropriate floor now?
Assuming health I think his floor will be in the same tier with the big name centers of the late 80's to mid 90's. I think his ceiling is probably the next LeBron/Kobe, trying to unseat Jordan. A Pelicans Dynasty would be pretty sweet.
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:48 pm to Domingo Ayala
LSU480's posts
Someone posted:
LSU480 responded:
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On what planet is Anthony Davis a "once in a decade" prospect?
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LeBron and Andrew Wiggins are once in a decade prospects, Anthony Davis is not.
Someone posted:
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So you'd trade Davis for the #1 pick in the draft next year?
LSU480 responded:
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Hell yes and I guarantee you The Pelicans would as well. I am glad you guys support your team but you guys are acting like he is going to be a top 3 player in the NBA which I never see happening.
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If I said that on ANY other board nobody would say it is trolling, you guys just have your Pelicans glasses on which is cool. I hope he does turn out to be a great player for you but IMO Jrue is your superstar,
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Don't believe me just watch
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:53 pm to Fearthehat0307
His PER was actually above 37 before last nights game
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:54 pm to saderade
quote:tDecline
His PER was actually above 37 before last nights game
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:55 pm to Fearthehat0307
frick. It's all downhill from here guys
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:59 pm to Fearthehat0307
his blocks were a nice 4 number too. those were the good ole days
Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:59 pm to Fearthehat0307
He's a top 5 player in the NBA, and he's 21 years old. He's well on his way to being mentioned with Lebron and KD in every discussion.
Let that marinate for a bit.
Let that marinate for a bit.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:02 pm to CocoLoco
What's a bit crazy is the lack of stars that have championships. The Kobe's Duncan Dirk Pierce Wade Bosh etc that all hasve rings are getting older and starting to fade in the league. Which young stars are going to start collecting that hardware...
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:07 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:11 pm to saderade
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His PER was actually above 37 before last nights game
Well frick it all.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:15 pm to htran90
When your PER drops after a 28 point (on 58%), 9 rebound, 3 block, 2 steal game, you are doing something right
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:17 pm to saintsfan92612
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When your PER drops after a 28 point (on 58%), 9 rebound, 3 block, 2 steal game, you are doing something right
Don't try to sweeten it.
Going down on PER just means you suck! ITS OVER GUYS. FLAPPENING on[off]
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:18 pm to htran90
Does he still post over here?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:35 pm to htran90
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LSU480's posts
just look up Da ThRONe's posts. He posts on pelicansreport a lot and on other boards.
He has trashed AD for years, said he would be the 7th best player at best in that draft, that he was Anthony Randolph, etc.
Only recently he said he may been a bit wrong, but he's not a superstar because he "stills sees flaws".
Good times.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:45 pm to Fun Bunch
i just read his talk on bynum...
i got a headache from reading stupid.
i got a headache from reading stupid.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:52 pm to htran90
Here's a few of his greatest hits, just for fun:
Recent post:
I mean we are all wrong about stuff, but damn.
(And before anyone says anything, I didn't dig up any of this...another poster did in order to burn him)
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Davis will struggle at the next level. I have no idea why people think he will be a star. He's a less skilled/phyiscally weaker Anthony Randolph.
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I think he is one of the riskier players in the draft because he ,unlike most of the guys that's lottery projections, can't be affective in the NBA as is. Robinson, Drummond, Barnes, Beal, T. Jones, Marshall, Lillard, Leonard, Zeller, and P. Jones all can be affective stars with their bodies as is the day of the draft. The only other lotto guys that need to transform their bodies at the next level are Sulliger(needs to lose weight) and Kidd-Gilchirst(needs to add weight). Losing weight pretty much always has a positive affect on a players game. However there's no way of telling how Davis' body will react to the 15-20lbs(miminal) he will need to add. Just looking at his frame it doesn't appear that he can add this weight while maintaining some of the traits that makes him a great shot blocker and these are just on his body and not his game
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The who is better than him?
IMO Robinson, Kidd-Gilchirst, Drummond, and Beal for sure.
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This you have to sustain some level of success for a length of time before I'm willing to clearly tie my wagon to a player. Davis has been great. This coming from someone who was a huge critic of his leaving UK. However we have no idea if he'll be able to handle the adjustments that teams will inevitably make to force him to do something he may struggle with.
For me right now their really no contest it's Love. If Davis does this all year then I think it becomes a much more reasonable discussion.
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"Anthony Davis as the seventh best player in the draft is ridiculous. Davis will be a top 7 player in the NBA within the next 4-5 years."
Not even close. Davis is being drafted because he a smart hard working player that's one of the best athletes in the draft. However there are way too many holes in his skillsets. The one thing I think fans and even the league fails to realise are those holes in skills much like physical limitation can only be improved so much. If he gets stronger and keeps his athleticism he'll be a Serge Ibaka/Tyson Chandler type player. There's no chance he becomes a top 10 player in the league.
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"I'm sorry but this is just wrong. He has Hakeem type upside. I'm not saying he will be that good, I'm just saying that your assertion that he'll never be in the top 10 players is ridiculous. He's the best big man to come out since Howard."
I think that's absurd, but it's a matter of opinions. I've never seen a guy that inefficient at creating his own offense at ever fascist of the game magically turn into a dominant scoring big. He'll have his defensive impact, but him getting to Howard's level on offense is the best case scenario. Sure he'll get stronger but will he be as explosive after probably not and that is the heart of his game.
Once again there are far too many gaps in his game skill wise that IMO can't be bridge. People are resting on him growing. He'll get better but top 10 is insane based on what I see when I break Davis down.
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His mid range jumper is "ok", it is most certainly not "great". Outside of Terrence Jones and Doron Lamb Kentucky scorers aren't really that good.
Once again everybody is banking on him to improve. I don't see any major improvements ever happening. I'm aware he only been 6'10 for 2 years. But there's been other people who have pick up the sport late that were farther along as far as skills than Davis. Once again he's no Ben Wallace and he'll improve however to the likes of KG, Duncan, Kareem, or Hakeem is never going to happen. He'll most likely have a decent to good career, but he'll never be a franchise player IMO.
Recent post:
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Yes there were some things that I undervalued in Davis' game mostly his touch around the basket. But much of my concerns from his college days are still present now. Davis has some ability and is a hard working high IQ player. Again I won't be as high on him until I see those concern with his game address.
I mean we are all wrong about stuff, but damn.
(And before anyone says anything, I didn't dig up any of this...another poster did in order to burn him)
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:07 pm to Fun Bunch
Some people just want to be right instead of getting it right.. This guy is a fricking dumb arse. That's about as light as I can put it.
Who the hell says this?
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when I break Davis down.
Who the hell says this?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:10 pm to Fun Bunch
He's probably Boom. He refuses to acknowledge AD's presence.
AD's % of FGA by distance:
0.444 0-3ft (0.427 career)
0.157 3-10ft (0.194 career)
0.174 10-16ft (0.159 career)
0.202 16-<3pt (0.210 career)
AD FG % by distance:
0.759 0-3ft (0.713 career)
0.571 3-10ft (0.431 career)
0.419 10-16ft (0.414 career)
0.389 16-<3ft (0.330 career)
So he's actually improving his shooting throughout all 4 ranges, but he's reducing low % shots (the 16-<3pt) and the 3-10ft shots are going down in favor of the 0-3ft attempts.
That tells me two things: better shot selection and better "basketball moves" to get himself closer to the rim.
AD's % of FGA by distance:
0.444 0-3ft (0.427 career)
0.157 3-10ft (0.194 career)
0.174 10-16ft (0.159 career)
0.202 16-<3pt (0.210 career)
AD FG % by distance:
0.759 0-3ft (0.713 career)
0.571 3-10ft (0.431 career)
0.419 10-16ft (0.414 career)
0.389 16-<3ft (0.330 career)
So he's actually improving his shooting throughout all 4 ranges, but he's reducing low % shots (the 16-<3pt) and the 3-10ft shots are going down in favor of the 0-3ft attempts.
That tells me two things: better shot selection and better "basketball moves" to get himself closer to the rim.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:18 pm to Fun Bunch
"Full retard" has been defined. He is it and it is him.
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