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Here's a nice "f*ck you" to the Climate Change apostles (caution: sciency shite)

Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:18 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:18 am
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“As independent scientists, we know that apparent evidence of ‘Climate Change,’ however scary, is not proof of anything, Science derives its objectivity from robust logic and honest evidence repeatedly tested by all knowledgeable scientists, not just those paid to support the administration’s version of ‘Global Warming,’ ‘Climate Change,’ ‘Climate Disruption,’ or whatever their marketing specialists call it today."


I particularly love this:

Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:21 am to
So the red-line is with human opinion and theory instead of what is real? Is that what all that is saying?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:22 am to
You're saying the fear-mongering "scientists" were wrong on their predictions?

Gee, guess history IS repeating itself.



What's funny is my daughter is studying ancient northern africa in geography. One of the questions she was studying mentioned the reason for the decline in population in one of the kingdoms was... climate change.

I said "I'm surprised they admit climate change has been around that long".
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:23 am to
I guess Gruber was in charge of the studies.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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124186 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

I guess Gruber was in charge of the studies.
I guess Gruber was in charge of characterizing results of the studies.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:29 am to
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https://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/06/Facebook_meme_Global_Cooling_11.gif
This is precious. A take-that meme using a Photoshop for 1977 billing itself under the URL ExtraordinaryIntelligence.com?
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 9:29 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:29 am to
well the comments in the OP are right

the models are obviously very wrong

but there is legit science in the errors realized in trying to make those models much more accurate

i don't think many people are arguing that climate is changing. however, the fact that we had to call it "climate change" instead of "global warming" to adjust for new information is a big deal. the causation is also not settled, and it is likely varied, so the division of causation is certainly not settled.

my stance on AGW has been pretty consistent for a few years. i think humans have an impact on global climate. i don't think we have any idea of what that impact is, yet. i think that we are very egotistical and we like to imagine our effects as greater than they are. this leads to emotional thinking and fear mongering. self-serving scientists see the economic incentives and are riding the financial gravy train, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy and confirmation bias with any results.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:32 am to
I wonder if Gruber has been working on global warming also...
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:32 am to
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This is precious. A take-that meme using a Photoshop for 1977 billing itself under the URL ExtraordinaryIntelligence.com?

Seriously? It's Time magazine covers.

Do you want them from Time magazine's site?





There you go "precious".

Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:33 am to
Agreed. I object to the fear mongering by the media which has been around since the 70's.

And obviously "Climate Change" has been around since the history of earth.

Otherwise we wouldn't have had an "Ice Age" and came out of it.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:34 am to
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There you go "precious".
Look at the penguin TIME magazine cover you just posted.

Now look at the one in your meme.

Do it twice. Then maybe grab some coffee or something while you wait for your brain hamster to find the cheese.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 9:35 am
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:34 am to
quote:

i don't think many people are arguing that climate is changing. however, the fact that we had to call it "climate change" instead of "global warming" to adjust for new information is a big deal.


That ALONE should have made EVERYONE sit back and say, WHAT THE F*CK!

When these whackjobs just kept spewing the same old sh!t - as though NOTHING had happened - with the same old liberal solution to every f*cking problem that ever existed (i.e., tax the living f*ck out of it), THAT was the point when you knew that this whole sh!t show was a complete f*cking money grubbing SCAM of the highest order.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 9:35 am
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:44 am to
GOD DAMN IT!

I lose!

I'm not even taking it down. It's my punishment.

However...



And now I'll go sit in the corner with my dunce cap on.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:47 am to
If there is a God, that term "Grubered" from the other thread will come to mean "any man-made scientific 'model' can be made to output whatever the makers want".

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423384 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:50 am to
the "global warming" to "climate change" issue just signals that we're WAY early in the science in this area.

the failure of the models is also a big sign. we have no idea how to analyze and predict the effects of the proposed issue (AGW). how can we make policy to combat the issue if we are so wrong in how we predict/perceive proposed issue?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35471 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:51 am to
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This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35471 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:52 am to
quote:

GOD DAMN IT!

I lose!

I'm not even taking it down. It's my punishment.

Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:54 am to
quote:

however, the fact that we had to call it "climate change" instead of "global warming" to adjust for new information is a big deal.
this narrative is false

Climate Change was used more in the scientific lexicon for most of the last century and global warming has always been a subset of climate change.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:57 am to
I find it humorous that the Rand Paul disagrees with his followers on GW. In fact most Republican leaders did including Bush until they realized the knuckledraggers weren't on board. Will be interesting if Paul goes the way of the others.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:58 am to
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the "global warming" to "climate change" issue just signals that we're WAY early in the science in this area.


At this point, as we look back, it's always been about the fear mongering.

Remember AleGore's predictions?

The one thing everyone should have gotten out of all this bullsh!t by now is that NO ONE in the world has a f*cking clue what's going to happen or man's effect on the climate.

But, one thing we do know is that these so-called "scientist" were paid a buttload of money to come up with these phony models and phony predictions to falsely support a completely f*cked up political agenda.

Hmmmm....does that sound familiar to anyone?????



These scumbags use the same games to promote all of their whackjob political scams.
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