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re: Liberalism 101; Why Gruber was "right" to Lie about Obamacare
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:41 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:41 am to mmcgrath
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BTW, people that think voters are stupid are pretty low-IQ themselves, and are usually in denial about their inept ability to communicate or even comprehend what they are talking about.
Even the Founding Fathers realized the public, as a whole, was stupid. That's why there were restrictions early on concerning which people could vote and which people could not. There was no guaranteed right to vote in this country at the outset. That didn't develop until the Jacksonian Era. Dr. Gruber may be a POS but he does have a point. He asserted that the only way the ACA could have passed was for politicians to lie about what was in it. They relied on the ignorance of the common voter in areas concerning economics and got away with it rather easily because the common voter does not understand (or does not care about) basic economics - especially young liberals.
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
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He asserted that the only way the ACA could have passed was for politicians to lie about what was in it. They relied on the ignorance of the common voter in areas concerning economics and got away with it rather easily because the common voter does not understand (or does not care about) basic economics - especially young liberals.
But the system can't work that way - we either need to go back to the original system, relying on the legislatures of the states and the 10th Amendment, or we need to crucify gameplaying a$$holes like Gruber, Pelosi, Reid and, yes, Obama. I know we're going to need a lot of crosses if we do that, and Ds and Rs aplenty will have to be put on them, but sometimes a surgeon has to cut to cure.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:06 pm to RollTide1987
quote:And he would be wrong, but it may have been more difficult. I think that the "Cadilac tax" vs. ESI rollback could have been an independent debate all on its own. May be thread worthy.
He asserted that the only way the ACA could have passed was for politicians to lie about what was in it.
Would anyone on this board support rolling back the ESI tax structures? If it could be proven that they drive up healthcare costs then I could see it working.
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