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Why is it that Jeremy Hill would break a long one damn near every week and LF...

Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:57 am
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8754 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:57 am
Hasn't really found the daylight as of yet? I mean, I'm not putting down LF in any way. He has a skill set that only a few players have ever had and I know he's as fast if not faster than Hill. However, it just makes wonder why he hasn't broken the long one yet. Once Hill got to the 2nd level, it was pretty much a wrap. I just don't see that with LF yet. Thoughts?
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73163 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:58 am to
Hill just went beast mode in an NFL game yesterday

maybe he's better
Posted by cforester821
Unofficial TD Multimedia Guy
Member since Jun 2014
1614 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:59 am to
That line last year we had was downright nasty.

Plus we have a new line coach and the line is just starting to gel. Give it time. It will come.

Also, teams couldn't load the box with 8-9 people last year. They had to respect the pass.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13932 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:00 pm to
Jeremy Hill wasn't even on a football team at LF's age. Maybe give it a little time.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:01 pm to
Jeremy HIll is an all time great. LF is no where near that league yet. When he gets a 100 on an alltime Gump D, then we can start that kinda talking.
Mett threw for 300 yards; Jennings hasnt done that yet why?
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28734 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:01 pm to
Because J Hill is better.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16533 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:04 pm to
It's a good question in the OP. And it needs to be pointed out that Hill missed an entire season of ball and yet was doing this in '12.

I don't think Jeremy has Leonard's top end speed but he has better vision.

Two key points:
1) Our OL played like garbage until the UF game.
2) LF's vision is getting better - he's simply runing more mature. Enjoy.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:05 pm to
I love all of LF's detractors.
He'll break the school freshman APY record this week and he's on pace to break the school freshman rushing yards record, but he's still got detractors.


Some of y'all are ridiculous.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:05 pm to
Hill was our best running back in over a decade man.

LF is 18.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83953 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:05 pm to
Last year Hill had 12 runs of 20+ yards. So far, Fournette has 7 runs of 20+ yards. Hill had 203 attempts last year, too. So far, Fournette has 131 attempts. Fournette won't get to 203 carries this year, I don't think.

Now, Hill did have more runs of 10+ yards than Fournette does this year, and it's not really close (40 to 15).

And, keep in mind that this is Fournette's first year.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Hasn't really found the daylight as of yet? I mean, I'm not putting down LF in any way. He has a skill set that only a few players have ever had and I know he's as fast if not faster than Hill. However, it just makes wonder why he hasn't broken the long one yet. Once Hill got to the 2nd level, it was pretty much a wrap. I just don't see that with LF yet. Thoughts?


its the difference in the passing game...we dont have one this year so they load the box...last year though we had a great passing game threat so the defenses are more honest...one helps the other
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5533 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:06 pm to
Better blocking for Hill?

Speed of game?

Vision?

JH - Had one of the best RS freshman seasons in LSU history with 755 yards rushing with 12 TDs!

LF is a "true freshman" and has 657 yards rushing and 7 TD!

With 3-4 (Bowl game) games remaining LF could get close or surpass those numbers!

This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3235 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:18 pm to
One thing that I think I've noticed is that Jeremy Hill has a freakish ability to be close to full speed after about two steps, while Fournette seems to have a slightly slower start. Maybe this is something that can be improved by Moffitt and his crew.

Posted by CONNECTICUTTIGER
RHODE ISLAND
Member since Apr 2006
975 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:35 pm to
Hill always seemed able to keep his balance when he got hit. Early in the year LF7 was having trouble with this but is getting better every week.
Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
6313 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:50 pm to
LF has had a lot of runs where he runs to initiate contact, instead of trying to run around defenders.

Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11392 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:55 pm to
If our line played every game this season like they played against Ole Piss...............LF would have a ton more yards.

It was hard for him to run with the entire DLine in the backfield with for a few of those games.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Ironhead985
Posted by zzemme
Member since Nov 2008
10164 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:15 pm to
Hill is the best back in LSU history
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:32 pm to
Hill did not play until his second year out of HS so he was physically more mature when he was a TF. He appears to have a quicker burst than LF at this point but LF is more capable of pushing a pile IMO. Also, I think JH was the beneficiary of better perimeter blocking by the WR's in his two years, though that area for this Tiger team is showing improvement as of late. But the most important factor for JH in my view is that he benefitted from having a future NFL QB throwing passes all over the field and on any down.
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