And Khiry Robinson was the lead back vs. 2 weak run defenses as well (TB is ranked 23rd - 123.9ypg; 4.11ypc, Minnesota is ranked 17th - 111.6ypg; 4.23ypc).

Yet he didn't rush for more than their defenses allow on the season (21-89 yards 4.2ypc vs. TB; 18-69 yards 3.8ypc vs. Minnesota) nor did he rush for exponentially more than their ypc allowed.

If you take away our games from their schedule, their defense gets worse. If you take away Ingram's game from GB's schedule, their defense gets better.

They may not be comparable in the type of game because one is SNF and the others are just two home games, but this isn't something I want to see:

vs. Minnesota
11 yards
13 yards
2 yards
0 yards
5 yards
7 yards
-6 yards
4 yards
3 yards
3 yards
0 yards
6 yards
5 yards
10 yards
1 yard
-2 yards
2 yards
5 yards

vs. TB
-1 yard
4 yards
7 yards
11 yards
1 yard
-1 yard
-2 yards
4 yards
-3 yards
0 yards
5 yards
8 yards
0 yard
3 yards
12 yards
7 yards
3 yards
5 yards
6 yards
2 yards
18 yards (TD)

In 39 rushes:
0 or loss: 10 carries, -15 yards
1-5: 17 carries, 57 yards
6-9: 6 carries, 41 yards
>10: 6 carries, 75 yards 1 TD
39 carries, 158 yards, 4.05ypc, 1TD
Combined, the defenses give up:
235.5 yards, 4.17ypc

More rested is a joke, we were at home vs. TB and Minnesota who have a combined 4 wins. If we got more rest because it was SNF, GB defense got more rest as well. That is the only difference. GB didn't just so happen to get the same amount of rest as Minny/TB

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Posted by The Pain Train

Member since Feb 2013

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Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:29 am to htran90

And yet you don't know for sure that Ingram would have done any better under those exact same conditions just like you don't know how Robinson would have done this past Sunday night.

In the 3 games that both Ingram and Robinson played in, Robinson outperformed Ingram in two of them. That doesn't mean Khiry is better than Mark. It just goes to help show that the Saints have more than 1 capable back.

quote:
More rested is a joke, we were at home vs. TB and Minnesota who have a combined 4 wins. If we got more rest because it was SNF, GB defense got more rest as well. That is the only difference. GB didn't just so happen to get the same amount of rest as Minny/TB

The Saints had week 6 completely off. It was pretty noticeable the very next week against Detroit that the team was looking generally better after the rest and time to regroup. When they played GB, they were only on their second week back after a full week off while GB was playing their 8th consecutive week. You have never heard a team say something like "The bye came at a good time for us because we're feeling a bit banged up and could use the break right now"? Are bye weeks as a rest benefit a joke? No, not at all. I don't know why anyone would try to declare that they are.

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Posted by htran90

Member since Dec 2012

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Posted on 10/29/14 at 3:11 am to htran90

quote:
In 39 rushes:
0 or loss: 10 carries, -15 yards
1-5: 17 carries, 57 yards
6-9: 6 carries, 41 yards
>10: 6 carries, 75 yards 1 TD
39 carries, 158 yards, 4.05ypc, 1TD
Combined, the defenses give up:
235.5 yards, 4.17ypc

Also, refer to this post:
Against bad run defenses 25.6% of Khiry's runs went for loss or 0 yards.

You honestly don't want me to compare the game 1/2 distributions as well. Khiry actually lost more yards or stuffed at the LOS more times than Ingram did in the first two games. Similar opponents, just like you guys wanted.

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