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re: Jordy Nelson+Randall Cobb+The Green Bay Athletes

Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:10 pm to
You forget who threw for 6 TDs and 480 yards against Detroit in 2011 with those "scrub" players. Now are you saying Matt Flynn is great too?

Extreme athleticism doesn't determine who is a great player. Jerry Rice wasn't extremely athletic, but his route running and work ethic were 2nd to none.

You wanted to use a 40 time as a measuring stick of how bad he was compared to other players and you got proved completely wrong, because half of the "elite WRs" are just as slow as him.

Put any great WR in a shitfest QB situation, you get shite back. You put them in a decent situation, they still produce relatively well. Look at Vincent Jackson after he left SD, Mike Wallace after he left Pitts, Eric Decker may not put up the gaudy 1300 yards when he was with Manning, but he was on pace for ~900 yards with Geno fricking Smith. Of course there's going to be a drop off going from a top 4 QB to a bottom 4 QB, what top 5 WR went to a bottom 5 QB and still produced? None.

Brandon Marshall didn't have career high numbers in Miami either, or the touchdowns when he was with Cutler in Denver. Antonio Brown never got into the spotlight until after Mike Wallace became a diva, nor is he considered a top 5 receiver to anyone. Dez Bryant took 3 years to have a 1000 yard season with all that athleticism and an above average QB in romo throwing at him.

No one is denying that Rodgers is the cog to that offense. He has one of the lowest, if not the lowest INT% EVER in the league. To say Nelson and Cobb are scrubs are totally off. If they can get away with scrubs because of how awesome Rodgers is, why did they draft 3 receivers, all in the 2nd round, since Rodgers' has been a starter? He's Rodgers, he can get away with UDFA walk ons right?
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

You wanted to use a 40 time as a measuring stick of how bad he was compared to other players and you got proved completely wrong, because half of the "elite WRs" are just as slow as him.



No I didn't I was talking to the people who said something about him flying by like he was super fast. 4.5 is not blazing speed. That was all I was saying.


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No one is denying that Rodgers is the cog to that offense. He has one of the lowest, if not the lowest INT% EVER in the league. To say Nelson and Cobb are scrubs are totally off.


I never said they were scrubs they are just not what everyone was making them out to be.

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If they can get away with scrubs because of how awesome Rodgers is, why did they draft 3 receivers, all in the 2nd round, since Rodgers' has been a starter? He's Rodgers, he can get away with UDFA walk ons right?



Ok for comparison name me one WR from Bradys first Super Bowl win without looking it up. They were a bunch of nobodys but Brady won a Super Bowl with them.


And I see you removed your statement about Randy Moss because he had 60 rec for over 1000 yards his first year with Oakland with Collins throwing him the ball, before he gave up on the field and started playing half arse the next year
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 3:41 pm
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