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re: "Green" fuel killing the Gulf

Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:24 pm to
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This is absolutely the first time I have ever heard that ethanol is an 'additive to prevent knocking


I took 6 different toxicology classes in grad school and we talked about the phasing out of leaded and MTBE fuels in all of them. We also discussed it in enviro chem. This isn't new information.

Once again, I'm not arguing for it, but we got to this point for a reason. Unfortunately ethanol has tied into economics in such a way that it creates bigger issues.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42821 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:31 pm to
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I took 6 different toxicology classes in grad school and we talked about the phasing out of leaded and MTBE fuels in all of them. We also discussed it in enviro chem. This isn't new information.

I am only addressing the anti-knocking claim not toxicology.

It is my impression that knocking occurs when the octane of the gas is not high enough relative to the compression of the engine to prevent pre-ignition. <-- what I call 'knocking.'

It is also my impression that ethanol effectively lowers the octane of fuel.

My impressions may be wrong, and I have never studied the matter, but I have been aware of all the public arguments put forth for ethanol. I just don't recall 'anti-knock' being one of those arguments. I'm pretty sure I would have noticed since it is - to me - illogical.
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