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Facts from Peer Reviewed Medical articles about Ebola
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:40 pm
Some of you doctors can explain to the board what a peer reviewed article from NEJM etc means as for as credibility. The facts are quite different from what the CDC is telling us right now. I think chance of this being something to be concerned about are remote. But as usual they are fricking lying to protect us from panic....again.
From another site. Everyone should read this. It is almost all from widely accepted peer viewed medical articles, and I suspect authored by a doctor.
I saw this table of symptoms in the New England Journal of Medicine and thought it was worth repeating. This was published by the WHO Ebola Response Team and the percentages are from the current outbreak in Africa. I did flip all of the percentages except for one from what percentage of people do have a certain symptom to what percentage don't. I think it makes it more obvious how many cases might be missed because someone doesn't have a particular symptom.
12.9% did not have a fever (11.8% of those who died did not) - About 1 in 8 do NOT have a fever!
23.6% did not feel fatigue (23.6% of those who died did not) - About 1 out of 4 do NOT feel fatigue!
32.4% did not vomit (30.6% of those who died did not) - About 1 out of 3 do NOT vomit!
34.4% did not have diarrhea (31.7% of those who died did not) - Anout 1 out of 3 do NOT have diarrhea!
In addition:
35.5% did not have loss of appetite (36% of those who died did not)
46.6% did not have a headache (46.2% of those who died did not)
55.7% did not have abdominal pain (56.5% of those who died did not)
60.6% did not have joint pain (59.3% of those who died did not
61.1% did not have muscle pain (59.8% of those who died did not)
63.0% did not have chest pain (59.8% of those who died did not
79.2% did not have conjunctivitis (red Ebola eyes) (76.4% of those who died did not)
82.0% did not have unexplained bleeding (79.8% of those who died did not)
92.3% did not have eye pain (91.1% of those who died did not)
This is the one percentage I didn't flip. When someone tells you that Ebola patients do not cough or sneeze so you won't catch it from droplets aerosolized in the air from an Ebola patient coughing, you can now cite this statistic:
29.6% of Ebola patients DO cough. And 32.5% of people who died from Ebola did cough. So about 1 out of 3 cough.
There is much more, including an expanded table of these symptoms here:
SOURCE: NEJM - Ebola Virus Disease in West Africa — The First 9 Months of the Epidemic and Forward Projections
LINK
From another site. Everyone should read this. It is almost all from widely accepted peer viewed medical articles, and I suspect authored by a doctor.
I saw this table of symptoms in the New England Journal of Medicine and thought it was worth repeating. This was published by the WHO Ebola Response Team and the percentages are from the current outbreak in Africa. I did flip all of the percentages except for one from what percentage of people do have a certain symptom to what percentage don't. I think it makes it more obvious how many cases might be missed because someone doesn't have a particular symptom.
12.9% did not have a fever (11.8% of those who died did not) - About 1 in 8 do NOT have a fever!
23.6% did not feel fatigue (23.6% of those who died did not) - About 1 out of 4 do NOT feel fatigue!
32.4% did not vomit (30.6% of those who died did not) - About 1 out of 3 do NOT vomit!
34.4% did not have diarrhea (31.7% of those who died did not) - Anout 1 out of 3 do NOT have diarrhea!
In addition:
35.5% did not have loss of appetite (36% of those who died did not)
46.6% did not have a headache (46.2% of those who died did not)
55.7% did not have abdominal pain (56.5% of those who died did not)
60.6% did not have joint pain (59.3% of those who died did not
61.1% did not have muscle pain (59.8% of those who died did not)
63.0% did not have chest pain (59.8% of those who died did not
79.2% did not have conjunctivitis (red Ebola eyes) (76.4% of those who died did not)
82.0% did not have unexplained bleeding (79.8% of those who died did not)
92.3% did not have eye pain (91.1% of those who died did not)
This is the one percentage I didn't flip. When someone tells you that Ebola patients do not cough or sneeze so you won't catch it from droplets aerosolized in the air from an Ebola patient coughing, you can now cite this statistic:
29.6% of Ebola patients DO cough. And 32.5% of people who died from Ebola did cough. So about 1 out of 3 cough.
There is much more, including an expanded table of these symptoms here:
SOURCE: NEJM - Ebola Virus Disease in West Africa — The First 9 Months of the Epidemic and Forward Projections
LINK
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:43 pm to TutHillTiger
100% of cases that originated in the USA started in Dallas, TX
Maybe we need to quarantine Dallas and West Africa? They can only travel between each other, nowhere else?
Maybe we need to quarantine Dallas and West Africa? They can only travel between each other, nowhere else?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:44 pm to TutHillTiger
You say your source is nejm and don't give a link to nejm. What a fail.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:50 pm to TutHillTiger
You linked "Above Top Secret"
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:09 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:
On the basis of the initial periods of exponential growth, the estimated basic reproduction numbers (R0 ) are 1.71 (95% CI, 1.44 to 2.01) for Guinea, 1.83 (95% CI, 1.72 to 1.94) for Liberia, and 2.02 (95% CI, 1.79 to 2.26) for Sierra Leone. The estimated current reproduction numbers (R) are 1.81 (95% CI, 1.60 to 2.03) for Guinea, 1.51 (95% CI, 1.41 to 1.60) for Liberia, and 1.38 (95% CI, 1.27 to 1.51) for Sierra Leone; the corresponding doubling times are 15.7 days (95% CI, 12.9 to 20.3) for Guinea, 23.6 days (95% CI, 20.2 to 28.2) for Liberia, and 30.2 days (95% CI, 23.6 to 42.3) for Sierra Leone.
This is the key info right here and shows WHY it won't take off in the US. If the R0 is sitting at around 1.5 in Africa it will be under 1 in the US, more likely it will be closer to zero here, and we have NOTHING to worry about.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:26 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:
92.3% did not have eye pain (91.1% of those who died did not)
My eye actually did hurt today so I'm relieved that Ebola is an unlikely candidate for the cause.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:42 pm to TutHillTiger
The incompetence of the Obsma administration is staggering- and now American lives are in greater danger from this disease because of it.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:45 pm to TutHillTiger
This was a footnote in the article:
quote:
Fever was defined as a body temperature above 38°C; however, in practice, health care workers at the district level often do not have a medical thermometer and simply ask whether the person’s body temperature is more elevated than usual.
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