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re: Does anyone truly believe this isn't Les Miles offense?

Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:15 am to
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:15 am to
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quote:Maybe he was questioning his own his call. sadly some will go with this
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More beer please
Really.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:15 am to
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Then why was miles caught on camera asking why we didnt pass it on one of the 3rd downs?


it was one 3rd down and how do you know what the context was of him saying "we have to throw it there"?

He could have all of a sudden realized running isn't going to work...maybe he saw a stacked box for once.

there was a TO right before that play. If he wanted to throw it why didn't he tell cam he wanted to throw it in that situation?
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25493 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to
Cam's Play Sheet



Les' Play Sheet



Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29271 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to
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Based on what I watched yesterday, it is eerily similar to the 49ers offense. It is a pro-style currently used in the NFL by some teams, apparently.



except well... the 49ers actually throw to their TE
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67381 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to
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we've seen him have play charts for years


So you think he shouldn't have a play chart?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45127 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to
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because this doesn't look anything like a cam cameron offense


And what exactly does that look like? Does it involve a senior qb and the best wr duo to come to the school in a while?

Is cams offense the majority of first down plays we had that gained 6-8 yards? And Miles is to blame for every play after?

Please continue only blaming Miles for any bad offensive play calls and praising Cam for the good ones.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to
toss dive is highlighted
Posted by crookedicat
Member since Aug 2005
483 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to
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so does miles run the offense or cam?


one thing is for sure, they are both being paid like they are not only running the offense, but still drawing up mind fricking plays....needless to say LSU is not getting a good return on investment there.

This is laughable....dude is a joke and has always been.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to
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because this doesn't look anything like a cam cameron offense


I still find it unbelievable that many of you can't see that we have an inexperienced offense and that Cam Cameron may be keeping things conservative because of that and its not just a Miles thing.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45127 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:18 am to
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If he wanted to throw it why didn't he tell cam he wanted to throw it in that situation?


And whos to say cam didnt disagree and Les trusted him? Some rantards opinions?
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:18 am to
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Cam Cameron may be keeping things conservative


was it conservative against NMSU?
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18448 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:18 am to
I don't get how people still wanna defend Miles.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29271 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:19 am to
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Please continue only blaming Miles for any bad offensive play calls and praising Cam for the good ones.



please continue putting words in my mouth. so tasty
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29271 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:19 am to
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And what exactly does that look like?


hint: no toss dives
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45127 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:19 am to
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so tasty


Yeah you better like it
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10494 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:21 am to
Seeing as it the gist of LSU's scheme right now doesn't resemble a true Cameron offense in any sense of the word, it is most definitely Les' offense. He's head coach, so he can surely dictate his team's offensive philosophy, but there in lies the problem. Les' philosophy simply doesn't work, is predictable and likely ties his coordinators hands with what he can call.

It is no coincidence that the offense has looked the same under every OC under Les. It took Les half a year to open up the offense in 2006 despite having a potential Heisman candidate at QB and tremendous wide receivers.

The fact is that Les will dictate this offense (not direct playcalls), and unlike several other coaches, has yet to learn to give up control to his coordinators where they are better suited at coaching than he is. He's best as a manager, not someone with his hands in everything, and he was a horrible OC when he was given the opportunity.

It's his choice, but he deserves as much blame if not more for the offensive struggles, because it all goes on him, but I doubt he's actually calling every play.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:21 am to
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was it conservative against NMSU?

I'm wondering how in a weeks time we go from torching a team like NMSU. To only being able to complete 1 pass in the first half against Auburn.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45127 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:21 am to
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hint: no toss dives


And thats because you think Les only runs it, correct?


Im not saying Les doesnt deserve criticism for how shittastic this team has been. But dont act like Cam isnt deserving of the same treatment.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:22 am to
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And whos to say cam didnt disagree and Les trusted him? Some rantards opinions?


who are the rantards again? the ones who question the coaches or the ones who don't?
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32457 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:23 am to
someone needs to do a funny gif of the play sheet and what the plays are lol
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