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re: Audiophile/Vinyl Thread - Post Pics, Advice, Questions, Setups, etc.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:42 pm to HebertFest08
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:42 pm to HebertFest08
HerbertFest08...So, even with the speakers not ideally placed, what do you think?...worth the money? When you first plugged them into the amp and played a tune, was it immediately noticeable? Did you feel it?
I ask because every time I made a substantial equipment change (amps, pre, speakers), it was kind of a "holy crap" moment for me. I remember when I replaced my JM Lab (Focal) Electra 926 speakers (1" tweeter, 6.5" mid, and (2) 7" woofers), which are no slouches by any stretch, with my current Focal Alto Utopias (almost 200lbs. apiece), I was blown away within the first 30 seconds of music playing...EVERYTHING was bigger, wider, deeper, higher--across the board. I wasn't expecting that huge a difference. At that moment I told Mrs. Esquandolas "worth every penny!"
About a year later I moved away from an Audio Research 70wpc tube amp to the McIntosh MC501 500w mono bloc amps--again, "holy crap!"...finally having some big time muscle pushing the Focal Utopias took them to a whole other level. I was able to push them to concert levels without any high/mid breakup.
A year later I moved from the McIntosh c2300 single chassis pre amp to the c500 dual chassis reference pre amp and again, the difference was heard within 30 seconds.
Each time I made a change I would begin to listen to my music library as if it were the first time, all the while discovering things on those recordings that I never heard (or felt) in the previous system. The biggest immediate differences were the extreme low end bass (that's what a big speaker will deliver), and a gigantic soundstage--as wide as the entire room (that's what a reference pre amp will deliver).
Since I made the big jumps up a year apart each time, it gave me the opportunity to get used to the system with one component changed out, then get used to its nuances, and then be able to tell the differences when I changed another piece out again a year later.
You have built a darn good rig--hopefully you will enjoy the hell out of it, and down the road, make changes to get even bigger, wider, and cleaner sound allowing you to experience your music library all over again!
I ask because every time I made a substantial equipment change (amps, pre, speakers), it was kind of a "holy crap" moment for me. I remember when I replaced my JM Lab (Focal) Electra 926 speakers (1" tweeter, 6.5" mid, and (2) 7" woofers), which are no slouches by any stretch, with my current Focal Alto Utopias (almost 200lbs. apiece), I was blown away within the first 30 seconds of music playing...EVERYTHING was bigger, wider, deeper, higher--across the board. I wasn't expecting that huge a difference. At that moment I told Mrs. Esquandolas "worth every penny!"
About a year later I moved away from an Audio Research 70wpc tube amp to the McIntosh MC501 500w mono bloc amps--again, "holy crap!"...finally having some big time muscle pushing the Focal Utopias took them to a whole other level. I was able to push them to concert levels without any high/mid breakup.
A year later I moved from the McIntosh c2300 single chassis pre amp to the c500 dual chassis reference pre amp and again, the difference was heard within 30 seconds.
Each time I made a change I would begin to listen to my music library as if it were the first time, all the while discovering things on those recordings that I never heard (or felt) in the previous system. The biggest immediate differences were the extreme low end bass (that's what a big speaker will deliver), and a gigantic soundstage--as wide as the entire room (that's what a reference pre amp will deliver).
Since I made the big jumps up a year apart each time, it gave me the opportunity to get used to the system with one component changed out, then get used to its nuances, and then be able to tell the differences when I changed another piece out again a year later.
You have built a darn good rig--hopefully you will enjoy the hell out of it, and down the road, make changes to get even bigger, wider, and cleaner sound allowing you to experience your music library all over again!
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:06 pm to Marco Esquandolas
Yeh man...
I was excited and I was hoping I wasn't expecting too much (w/o really knowing what to expect) if that makes any sense. I was not disappointed one bit. As a matter of fact, my buddy who basically got me started on getting a turntable was the first I called. I told him we needed to get him some real shite.
he has this little TT in a box basically. I told his cheap arse we would get him something nice for his new house. I'll get that done when I get him in here to listen.
I kind of got them halfassed and put it on... and all I could think was this shite is awesome. the sound was amazing (to me). I listened to isbells southeastern and it reminded me of watching him live the couple of times I've seen him. They have great clarity (again to me) and I could hear details you can't here off of the digital stuff. Listened to a couple more albums. Then I switched up the mood and connected Bluetooth to the amp and played "shine on you crazy diamond" . Played for a couple minutes then decided to finally turn it up and holy shite! Felt like I was hearing the song new again. The bass kicked in with it turned up and it's a good tight bass.
That being said, I didn't realize what I actually had until I listened to Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds live at music city. Wow. I just sat there and listened to the whole album, drinking some cold ones. Felt like I could hear every strum and pick of every string. Again just me, but I went from not driving to driving a classy sports sedan... like an Audi S8 or something. Again, this shite was through a Bluetooth connection. I want the album now.
The really sound good cranked up a bit, but at low volume you can still hear everything. Just not a ton of bass, which i knew going in with these vandys. That being said I've already started to plan kind of what I'd like to do in the future.
The Nomad makes it easy to upgrade the cart from the ortofon red, to blue and to the black. Maybe possibly getting the vandy sub and or several other things. Maybe a better or (not necessarily better) more powerful amp and use the vena as a pre amp. As of now that won't happen for a while, but my need for research will fill the passing time. At least I have some sort of idea now and I know I can get some big time advice will
Keep that upgrade bug around.
Can't thank you enough for helping me out with all this Marco. Appreciate it!
Now I just need my cables back!
I was excited and I was hoping I wasn't expecting too much (w/o really knowing what to expect) if that makes any sense. I was not disappointed one bit. As a matter of fact, my buddy who basically got me started on getting a turntable was the first I called. I told him we needed to get him some real shite.
he has this little TT in a box basically. I told his cheap arse we would get him something nice for his new house. I'll get that done when I get him in here to listen. I kind of got them halfassed and put it on... and all I could think was this shite is awesome.
the sound was amazing (to me). I listened to isbells southeastern and it reminded me of watching him live the couple of times I've seen him. They have great clarity (again to me) and I could hear details you can't here off of the digital stuff. Listened to a couple more albums. Then I switched up the mood and connected Bluetooth to the amp and played "shine on you crazy diamond" . Played for a couple minutes then decided to finally turn it up and holy shite! Felt like I was hearing the song new again. The bass kicked in with it turned up and it's a good tight bass. That being said, I didn't realize what I actually had until I listened to Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds live at music city. Wow. I just sat there and listened to the whole album, drinking some cold ones. Felt like I could hear every strum and pick of every string. Again just me, but I went from not driving to driving a classy sports sedan... like an Audi S8 or something. Again, this shite was through a Bluetooth connection. I want the album now.
The really sound good cranked up a bit, but at low volume you can still hear everything. Just not a ton of bass, which i knew going in with these vandys. That being said I've already started to plan kind of what I'd like to do in the future.
The Nomad makes it easy to upgrade the cart from the ortofon red, to blue and to the black. Maybe possibly getting the vandy sub and or several other things. Maybe a better or (not necessarily better) more powerful amp and use the vena as a pre amp. As of now that won't happen for a while, but my need for research will fill the passing time. At least I have some sort of idea now and I know I can get some big time advice will
Keep that upgrade bug around.
Can't thank you enough for helping me out with all this Marco. Appreciate it!
Now I just need my cables back!
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