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Posted on 9/30/14 at 5:59 am to Vegas Bengal
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Four years ago US News did a story about the right's obsession with Wright and it continues today.
Do a google search of his name and every wacko right wing site has some crazy story about him. It's part of the meme: Benghazi, IRS, fast & furious and Jeremiah Wright. He'll search those term on this site and they come up together. It's like zombies repeating it over and over and over. The echo just keeps reverberating.
These folks are shocked, shocked, shocked to learn that politics would ever be discussed in a Black church which goes to show you how little they know about Black folks. Here's how the New York Times' Nicholas Kristof put it at the time:
"Much of the time, blacks have a pretty good sense of what whites think, but whites are oblivious to common black perspectives.
What’s happening, I think, is that the Obama campaign has led many white Americans to listen in for the first time to some of the black conversation — and they are thunderstruck."
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In one of his finer moments, Mike Huckabee put Jeremiah Wright in context. When I hear him talk like this, it's easy to see how he carried the Black vote when he ran for Governor of Arkansas.
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:17 am to trackfan
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"Much of the time, blacks have a pretty good sense of what whites think, but whites are oblivious to common black perspectives.
In the political realm, there has never been a more accurate statement.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:31 am to NC_Tigah
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Is Jeremiah Wright a Former Muslim?
Of course he is. Obama is a Muslim.
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Not that it matters a great deal,
What could be more important? Other than coffee cup salute, of course.
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:40 am to SpidermanTUba
The defenders and the lengths they'll go absolutely blow my mind. It's more like a cult following than supporting a political candidate.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:15 am to NC_Tigah
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Is Jeremiah Wright a Former Muslim?
Would surprise me. Just like Obama is a "Former" Muslim.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:23 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:If Obama is not engaged as the President of the United States do you actually think he was engaged as a church member for 20 years? He was a member of that church as a status symbol not because of his beliefs. (My opinion....no link)
Not digging into the Wright issues is the greatest disservice by the media for the last 60 years. No man sits in a church for 20 years unless he is hook line and sinker involved with what that church is saying.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:49 am to trackfan
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He never did any such thing, and if he did you would provide the quote. Here's what he said on that matter a few days after FOX News started the Wright tapes on video loop:
You are playing a semantical game because he wasn't quoted saying exactly what I posted, but the gist is the same.
One, Obama pretended that he was just another person in the congregation, and he wasn't. Wright was the godparent of one of Obama's children.
Two, he pretended that he didn't agree with all Wright preached. Well guess what, no person agrees with everything a pastor says, but if one stays in a church over 20 years, you agree with the general theme of the pastors theology.
Let's play a game; a conservative candidate goes to a church for over 20 years and the pastor preaches messages that are consistent with Klan rhetoric. Things like the belief in segregation, the belief that whites shouldn't date or marry blacks or the belief that whites are superior to blacks. What's the chance that he would have been given a pass like Obama was?
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:47 am to trackfan
quote:Who the frick is shocked at this? Hell, it's practically common knowledge and it is very commonly discussed whenever some lefty thinks that a white church talking politics needs to get taxed.
These folks are shocked, shocked, shocked to learn that politics would ever be discussed in a Black church
On what planet do you reside?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:49 am to Revelator
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Let's play a game; a conservative candidate goes to a church for over 20 years and the pastor preaches messages that are consistent with Klan rhetoric. Things like the belief in segregation, the belief that whites shouldn't date or marry blacks or the belief that whites are superior to blacks. What's the chance that he would have been given a pass like Obama was?
You left out that when asked, said white candidate will say, "well, I didn't agree with everything the pastor said" and then the media will give him a total pass on it and never ask about it again.
I mean, that's what would happen, right?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:52 am to SettleDown
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You left out that when asked, said white candidate will say, "well, I didn't agree with everything the pastor said" and then the media will give him a total pass on it and never ask about it again.
I'll tell you what else would have happened.
First, a question. What are the odds that Wright has said NOTHING controversial since Obama got elected?
With that in mind, you can bet if some conservative was in office with a similar church background, every time the dumb frick preacher said something new, it would be f'n NEWS!!!
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:58 am to SettleDown
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With that in mind, you can bet if some conservative was in office with a similar church background, every time the dumb frick preacher said something new, it would be f'n NEWS!!!
Trackfan and his ilk know this, but they pretend if you don't quote the President's words, word for word but instead read between the lines that you are somehow being dishonest. Everyone with a once of honesty knows Obama's ties to Wright were marginalized and ignored.
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:19 am to Revelator
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You are playing a semantical game because he wasn't quoted saying exactly what I posted, but the gist is the same. One, Obama pretended that he was just another person in the congregation, and he wasn't. Wright was the godparent of one of Obama's children. Two, he pretended that he didn't agree with all Wright preached.
All you're doing is repeating FOX News propaganda as evidenced of the fact that you won't provide a quote. I don't engage in propaganda which is why I provided Obama's exact words from his nationally televised speech that he gave only three days after FOX revealed the tapes.
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Well guess what, no person agrees with everything a pastor says, but if one stays in a church over 20 years, you agree with the general theme of the pastors theology
Of course Obama had similar political views to Wright, Obama is a liberal. Is it a big surprise that liberals like Obama, Oprah and Melissa-Harris Perry would attend a liberal pastor's church?
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Let's play a game; a conservative candidate goes to a church for over 20 years and the pastor preaches messages that are consistent with Klan rhetoric
You whole hypothetical completely falls apart right here. Only a ignorant racist would compare Wright to the KKK. Mike Huckabee correctly compared Wright to Jerry Falwell. If you're going to compare someone to the likes of David Duke, that person would be Louis Farrakhan, not Wright.
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Things like the belief in segregation, the belief that whites shouldn't date or marry blacks or the belief that whites are superior to blacks.
You mean like Franklin Graham, John Hagee, Bob Jones and Rod Parsely?
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What's the chance that he would have been given a pass like Obama was?
Who do you think gave Obama a pass? Are you blaming the American people for giving Obama a pass? Certainly there was no one who voted in 2008 that didn't know about Wright. Hillary Clinton and FOX News made sure of that. Similarly, everyone knew about W's ties to Bob Jones university when they elected him in 2000.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:20 am to SettleDown
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You left out that when asked, said white candidate will say, "well, I didn't agree with everything the pastor said" and then the media will give him a total pass on it and never ask about it again.
What should the media do after he answers the question?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:25 am to SettleDown
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First, a question. What are the odds that Wright has said NOTHING controversial since Obama got elected?
With that in mind, you can bet if some conservative was in office with a similar church background, every time the dumb frick preacher said something new, it would be f'n NEWS!!!
You folks seem to believe in guilt by association, and that Obama should be held accountable everything Wright says, as though Wright is one of his cabinet members. There are those who trying to hold Rand Paul responsible for every comment that his father makes, but I bet you have a totally different take on that.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:27 am to trackfan
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With that in mind, you can bet if some conservative was in office with a similar church background, every time the dumb frick preacher said something new, it would be f'n NEWS!!!
So because Obama said he didn't agree with everything Wright said, this makes his attendance at the church for over 20 years somehow acceptable? So all one has to do to distance oneself from any distasteful situation for any candidate is to say," I don't agree wth everything he says?" Wow, you set the bar really low.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:28 am to Revelator
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Everyone with a once of honesty knows Obama's ties to Wright were marginalized and ignored.
How can you say that his ties were marginalized and ignored when Obama himself said that Wright was like family to him? Obama compared his relationship to Wright to his relationship with his grandmother.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:34 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:Here's the deal nitwit.
Of course he is. Obama is a Muslim.
Knowledge is a powerful thing.
Whereas you somehow view Wright's possible experience with Islam as derisive, I don't.
IMO, IF Wright was Muslim at one time, a detailed interview with him on the topic could be very informative. Trouble is, I don't have the slightest clue as to veracity of the OP claim. That is why there is a ""?"" in the OP title.
If Wright was Muslim, and if he would talk about it, the Christian-Muslim comparative could be valuable for many folks.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 6:36 am
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:34 am to trackfan
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"Much of the time, blacks have a pretty good sense of what whites think, but whites are oblivious to common black perspectives.
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What’s happening, I think, is that the Obama campaign has led many white Americans to listen in for the first time to some of the black conversation — and they are thunderstruck."
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Anyone that thinks this is more arrogant than Obama
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:35 am to trackfan
Perhaps you'd give more credence to articles from ABC news about Wright and Obama?
ABC
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In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.
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