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re: My German Shepherd doesn't listen to anything

Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:36 pm to
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Shock collar. It worked wonders for my mutt.6. Don’t Use the Collar With a Leash


I just finished reading a good article eBay posted about shock collars:

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The shock collar is designed to train the dog when they are not tethered to a leash; they receive a shock in order to condition them to behave on their own. When owners are walking their dog, and any other time they have direct control over the dog’s behavior, they should not be using the shock collar. There are two main reasons to avoid this practice. First, the electronic collars are not designed for this purpose and the tension from a dog leash could prove disastrous if too much tension is applied, especially if a shock is administered. The collar could end up injuring the dog, snapping in half, or both. Second, dog owners should positively and negatively reinforce actions on their own when they are walking their dogs. They can use the leash to communicate with the dog and should not need an electronic device when the leash in in their hands. If both a leash and a shock collar are used in conjunction with one another, the dog will receive mixed messages and become confused instead of obedient.
Posted by BM7133
Raceland, LA
Member since Feb 2006
1187 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:37 pm to
Its all about respect...they are right. You have to be the alpha or he will be it for u. The training i mentioned was all about the relationship between you and your dog. Keep in mind alpha doesnt mean u whip his arse....it means that he trusts you to lead. Also the exercise part is essential....they have to channel their energy somewhere. Owning a large breed is a full time commitment.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:37 pm to
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You may have a ton of bad habits and not even know it. He clearly thinks you are not the alpha of the pack, so you need rectify that. Whenever you walk him, you make sure you go out the door first. Whenever you feed him, you make sure you have eaten first. May want to walk him before feeding him to show him that eating is a reward for work. If he doesn't listen to you at first, yank his prong collar and get him to do it before you allow him move on to the next thing. Dogs also pick up on your moods and demeanor. GSDs are big damn dogs and they will take over if they feel like the leader of the pack (you) isn't doing a good enough job. I'd buy a book on GSDs and hire a trainer to work with you and your dog as well.


All of this!

Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15416 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:39 pm to
Is your dog trained to follow any commands, such as sit, lay, shake? These are super easy with a GS. If not, I would master these first thing.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98485 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:42 pm to
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Shock collar.


Good lord. This is the first shortcut for every dumbass who's too lazy or stupid to train his dog properly.
Posted by SquirrelBones
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
393 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:47 pm to
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Remember, dogs crave discipline and exercise, particularly GSDs. Bad behavior can be a sign of weakness on your part (without you even knowing it) and/or lack of exercise. GSDs are filled with energy and very active minds. You may need to give him tasks to do throughout the day to keep his mind occupied.

This is correct. My GSD does the same thing to my wife but walks fine for me. He has to understand that you are the pack leader. Lots of practice on the leash is necessary and lots of mental stimulation and exercise.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23713 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:50 pm to
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My German Shepherd doesn't listen to anything

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How do I fix this?

learn German?
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:54 pm to
Get it together, Broke. My puppy walks without a leash. Granted, he's in the backyard, but still.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127071 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:57 pm to
Which German shepherd is yours...??

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47826 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:59 pm to
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He clearly thinks you are not the alpha of the pack, so you need rectify that.


You should mount him to establish dominance.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65061 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Is your dog trained to follow any commands, such as sit, lay, shake?


Yes. Barely
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65061 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:00 pm to
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My puppy walks without a leash.


All dogs walk around without a leash you dummy
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15416 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:02 pm to
Master these, then use them to calm your dog down while on the leach. At least your dog isn't skittish. A lot of GS are hard to walk initially because they don't trust their surroundings.
Posted by Slinky
Member since Dec 2013
3118 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:02 pm to
Ever think he might be deaf?
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Ever think he might be deaf?


My thoughts exactly
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9242 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Ever think he might be deaf?


Best way to test this is to throw a pack of black cats under him while he is eating.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:13 pm to
I meant like good and stuff!!
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101934 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:16 pm to
Interesting.

I actually got it primarily for when I let her out off the leash at the camp, and it works best in that regard, but I've had great results using it in combination with commands while on the leash. I don't attach the leash to the shock collar though, but to her regular one. I make sure to always accompany a NO command the few times I do have to use it.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11968 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:17 pm to
I had the same problem. This fixed the problem. It is similar to a horse lead in that part of it goes around the snout. Since his snout is attached to the leash if he pulls all he does is turn his head around to face you. It worked wonders with my shepherd. Sadly I have no solution for the sniffing part.
Posted by eleventy
inner city
Member since Jun 2011
2056 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:18 pm to
I have a mix that (as best the vet can guess) is either GS or Belgian Malinois and Catahoula. She got larger than expected faster than expected, and became difficult on walks. Took her to obedience with Larry Benoit in BR. He suggests a pinch collar and his training methods worked well with practice at home. He will also come to your house and work with the dog.
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