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re: Eric Holder's Going-Away Gift To Muslim-Americans

Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:44 am to
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:44 am to
You really are obsessed with me, aren't you? I really appreciate the fact that you allow me to live in your head rent-free.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123951 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:48 am to
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where do you live?

I don't answer obviously rhetorical questions, but if you have a serious question, I'll be glad to respond.

quote:

You really are obsessed with me, aren't you? I really appreciate the fact that you allow me to live in your head rent-free.
You missed an opportunity to combine those answers, tf.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:05 am to
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I guess a lot of folks here aren't fans of the 1st Amendment.
The right to free speech doesn't mean you get the right to have your speech ignored by the government. In fact it implies just the opposite, that government will listen to your speech and give it the proper consideration. If in that consideration, government determines there is a threat to the safety of others, then government has an obligation to take reasonable measures to protect the safety of those others. Thus, it is imperative that Government pays attention to the speech of all who express threats to the safety of others. This includes monitoring how the speech has influence on others. As such, monitoring religious groups is as necessary as monitoring other groups that express dangerous ideas.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41154 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:12 am to
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All Libertarians should support this.




quote:

The Justice Department is expected to issue a broad new policy




Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:30 am to
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KCT


Please return to the Gestapo...Germany of the 1930's is calling for your mindset.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:35 am to
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Please return to the Gestapo...Germany of the 1930's is calling for your mindset






This post makes no sense
Posted by Edearl Watson
Parts Unknown
Member since May 2012
6782 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:41 am to
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banning religious and other forms of profiling by federal law enforcement officers,


Don't we already have existing laws?
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8399 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:43 am to
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Eric Holder's Going-Away Gift To Muslim-Americans


curtain dressing. nothing more nothing less.

nsa will nsa
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:07 pm to
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guess a lot of folks here aren't fans of the 1st Amendment.


you mean the right to plan terrorist acts under the guise of freedom of religion?

I suppose it does allow a certain latitude, but on the other hand, non-Americans on our soil have no right at all really, just because idiots like you want to grant it to them doesn't mean they have it.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90711 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:06 pm to
I don't understand people's outrage over this.

I think it's a good idea, at least based on what you quoted it sounds like it is. You shouldn't be targeted just because of a religion, race, etc. There should be hard evidence to justify surveillance.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:28 pm to
Amen deltaland, Amen!
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2463 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Interesting.

It's like a rule mandating that you can only use half your brian to do police work.

BTW, check out the FBI's most wanted terrorists list.
Does anyone notice a dominant theme?


They are overwhelmingly not in the United States, Muslim and have done something already to put them on the list.

I really don't understand the bitching in this thread. How can so many people in this thread can be so anti Big Government yet they support government overreach in situation in which it doesn't effect them.


Also, Libertarians quit being so dam quiet in this thread. This board is allegedly Libertarian leaning. I'd love your insight into this issue.




This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69917 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:07 pm to
I make sure to check for Muslims under my bed every night.

Is that something I'm not supposed to do?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:38 pm to
I was like the third reply :shrug:
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:44 pm to
Profiling is ok when it is other people being profiled.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69917 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:45 pm to
Profiling is just damn fine police work.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2463 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:48 pm to
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I was like the third reply :shrug:


My bad
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:51 pm to
So wait holder is creating laws now? Thought he just ignored them.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:54 pm to
Thanks for making my point.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 4:57 pm to
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I really don't understand the bitching in this thread. How can so many people in this thread can be so anti Big Government yet they support government overreach in situation in which it doesn't effect them.


The same reason there is a lack of outrage/concern about the militarization of the police we have seen recently.

As long as it's 'those folks' & not heroes like the great Cliven Bundy.

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