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re: Why GDP growth isn't even relevant (anymore) to 90% of the population
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:01 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:01 pm to NC_Tigah
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"Structural" . . . as in 1 of 4 Americans age 25-54y/o not working during this """expansion""".
Why are they so lazy? They should just get jobs. Any time I look in the classifieds, there's always jobs. I can't figure out why people can't get jobs!
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:01 pm to SpidermanTUba
Well that's hasty.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:02 pm to inthemorning
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If you are saying that it's better for most people to starve than for some to get fat then you are an envious monster.
If you are saying its OK to kill puppies then you're a meanie. Not that you are saying that. But just in case - IF - you are.
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If you are saying economic growth isn't important then you are more anti-science than a creationist.
If you are saying that fast isn't good then you're a dum dum.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:13 pm to SpidermanTUba
The rich get richer is a totally recent saying brah.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:15 pm to AUin02
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:30 pm to SpidermanTUba
Spidey, serious question...
Should these types of stats upset me and people with similar mindsets as myself?
There have been times where I've felt like things weren't fair or were stacked against me in life. If they're easy to see then I'll complain or raise a funk about it, but for the most part I take complete responsibility for everything I do.
When I work really hard towards a task I find that I get positive results. When I take shortcuts or get lazy or get bogged down feeling bad for myself I sometimes fail. But in these cases it's very easy to point out why I had success or why I didn't. I pretty much never blame anyone else but myself if I frick something up. It has got to be damn near impossible to be your best if you can't figure out how to take responsibility of your own successes or failures.
I'm currently in school working towards getting a degree and starting a career. If I screw this up or suck at my career or end up not being a wealthy individual I'm pretty sure I'll blame nobody but myself.
I'm aware that the job world isn't always fair(not sure of exact examples) but why should I be upset that some people are really successful and some fail miserably?
Not once in my life have I looked at a successful person and thought "man, I want what they have and this isn't fair."
I am where I am because of decisions I've made and that's that.
Should these types of stats upset me and people with similar mindsets as myself?
There have been times where I've felt like things weren't fair or were stacked against me in life. If they're easy to see then I'll complain or raise a funk about it, but for the most part I take complete responsibility for everything I do.
When I work really hard towards a task I find that I get positive results. When I take shortcuts or get lazy or get bogged down feeling bad for myself I sometimes fail. But in these cases it's very easy to point out why I had success or why I didn't. I pretty much never blame anyone else but myself if I frick something up. It has got to be damn near impossible to be your best if you can't figure out how to take responsibility of your own successes or failures.
I'm currently in school working towards getting a degree and starting a career. If I screw this up or suck at my career or end up not being a wealthy individual I'm pretty sure I'll blame nobody but myself.
I'm aware that the job world isn't always fair(not sure of exact examples) but why should I be upset that some people are really successful and some fail miserably?
Not once in my life have I looked at a successful person and thought "man, I want what they have and this isn't fair."
I am where I am because of decisions I've made and that's that.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:02 am to ReauxlTide222
Just curious. Wonder what the national debt would look like overlayed on that graph?
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:11 am to geauxturbo
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Just curious. Wonder what the national debt would look like overlayed on that graph?
Or number of government regs. Barriers to entry have only grown over that time and what do Libs advocate for? MORE of them.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:25 am to ReauxlTide222
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But in these cases it's very easy to point out why I had success or why I didn't.
If you know with 100% foresight and clarity what leads to success and what leads to failure, why don't you just always choose the path that leads to success? Heck, if you know with 100% foresight and clarity what leads to success and what leads to failure, you could be 100% successful just selling that knowledge to others!
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I'm currently in school working towards getting a degree and starting a career. If I screw this up or suck at my career or end up not being a wealthy individual I'm pretty sure I'll blame nobody but myself.
Your measure of success is either wealthy - or not?
quote:So based on the statistics in the OP - its your position that millions of Americans - 90% of them - just up and decided to all make the wrong decisions all at once - starting in the 80's or so?
I am where I am because of decisions I've made and that's that.
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 12:28 am
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:30 am to stuntman
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Or number of government regs.
How do you count government regs? Is there a standard method? If a government reg says I have to have stainless steel surfaces in my pizza restaurant - is that one government reg, or does it count one each for the prep table, the make line, and the cutting table - for 3 regs?
Just curious how you add these things up. I'm sure you'll also follow with a link justifying your claim above with a crystal clear definition of just what counts as "one" government reg. Thanks.
ReauxlTide222 would likely disagree with your implication that this is caused by excessive government regulation. ReauxlTide222 thinks that everyone just decided to become lazy and stop working as hard (in spite of the real world facts that Americans are working longer hours and producing more per hour than ever before)
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 12:35 am
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:32 am to geauxturbo
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Just curious. Wonder what the national debt would look like overlayed on that graph?
If you overlaid national debt as a %of GDP I doubt you'd get the results you want. Especially with regards to the early post-war boom (first bar). So don't bother.
Or you could be completely disingenuous and post a nominal dollar plot alongside it - and prolly get what you're looking for.
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 12:33 am
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:48 am to SpidermanTUba
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If you overlaid national debt as a %of GDP I doubt you'd get the results you want. Especially with regards to the early post-war boom (first bar). So don't bother. Or you could be completely disingenuous and post a nominal dollar plot alongside it - and prolly get what you're looking for.
Not looking for anything. Said I was curious what it'd look like. Only GW scientists bend data to get what they want. I have no want, just curiosity.
Regardless, not a good graph for the status quo. Dems and pubs are failing at feeding the middle class. But, if you've ever met a politician, you'd know they give exactly 1 shite.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:53 am to geauxturbo
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Not looking for anything.
Yeah I believe that. quote:
just curiosity.
Not enough, apparently. This is all easily acquired data. If you actually were curious - you would take 10 minutes and do it yourself.
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. Dems and pubs are failing at feeding the middle class. But, if you've ever met a politician, you'd know they give exactly 1 shite.
Politicians in the 50's and 60's somehow cared more?
Posted on 9/27/14 at 1:01 am to SpidermanTUba
The healthy GDP distribution of the 40s, 50s, and 60s has much to do with the fact that America escaped severe damage to capital goods, while much of Europe was bombed back to the middle ages. It wasn't until the early 60s that Europe, especially Western Germany, underwent an economic miracle. In W. Germany, it is an era known as the "Wirtschafts Wunder", which translates to "Economic wonder". As we progressed away from the war years, and as Europe and Japan healed and recovered, American companies had more options on where to set up, and also foreign companies were able to offer goods to Americans.
The graph, however, ignores purchasing power. No one would deny that ALL americans of today have greater access to material wealth than ever before.
The graph, however, ignores purchasing power. No one would deny that ALL americans of today have greater access to material wealth than ever before.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 1:06 am to SpidermanTUba
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How do you count government regs?
I wish I could tell you. People who've tried to count the exact number admit it's impossible. They can get an exact number on the pages of the federal register, but like you said, getting the exact number of regs would be difficult. Kinda like having your taxes done by 10 different accountants and having different outcomes by each one.
That being said, I think even you would agree that the number has certainly grown over the years.
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 1:08 am
Posted on 9/27/14 at 2:02 am to SpidermanTUba
Obama has done what he can to try and even the playing field. Fortunately, the GOP has fricked him and prevented him from doing much at every turn and the top 10% is raking it in. I say fortunately bc that includes me. 
GOP
GOP
Posted on 9/27/14 at 2:04 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Obama has done what he can to try and even the playing field.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 2:09 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
He has tried, but he is a failure. Hell, my income is up about 80k since he took office and I'm just glad the GOP is making sure income inequality keeps growing. 
Posted on 9/27/14 at 2:12 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:How can the government stop income inequality? Why is it necessary for the state to do something?
I'm just glad the GOP is making sure income inequality keeps growing
Also, two years later, and you are STILL a bitch.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 2:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Government could because they can make laws lil feller.
Fortunately though income inequality is still on the rise. I like it like that. Everyone can't have everything and Obama has failed.
Rich get richer son. How it works.
Fortunately though income inequality is still on the rise. I like it like that. Everyone can't have everything and Obama has failed.
Rich get richer son. How it works.
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