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re: 4th grade question has us stumped!

Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

it is 4, the pattern is six multiplied by a number that keep getting halved.

36 (6x6)
18 (6x3)
9 (6x1.5)
4 (6x.75)



Except no, because 6 x .75 = 4.5, the answer that has been rehashed over and over and over.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:38 pm to
46,781?
Posted by SPE UVA
Charlottesville VA
Member since May 2009
126 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:44 pm to
wow, i was proud of myself for cracking the code, but now i realize i'm a moron.
Posted by teachingtiger
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:52 pm to
I am going to go with 66,782.

Ten-thousands - in my post nap stupor, I thought maybe the pattern is the result of subtracting instead of division, but the 9-9=0 doesn't fit unless 27 was left out of the original pattern?

I think 36/2=18, 36/4=9, 36/6=6 is more likely.

Thousands - largest factor of 8 is 8. 8-2=6

Hundreds - 7x7=49

Tens- 4th multiple of 2 is 8

Ones- Only prime number less than 3 is 2; 1 is neither prime nor composite
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 1:20 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:59 pm to
56762

ETA: bookmarked so you can come back and tell me in right. I'm also drunk. You should all be ashamed
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 12:06 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76551 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:00 am to
quote:

Ten-thousands - I think pattern is result of subtracting. 36-18=18, 18-9=9, 9-9=0


quote:

teachingtiger


Posted by teachingtiger
Member since Apr 2004
279 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:02 am to
Hey, it's midnight. I just woke up from a nap.

I didn't read all the other responses. What's the deal with the ten-thousands place?

ETA: What does the OT think the ten-thousands place is? I quit reading responses when people started dividing by two and rounding up to 5.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 12:04 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76551 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:03 am to
4.5 rounded to 5 is all we came up with.
Posted by teachingtiger
Member since Apr 2004
279 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:04 am to
quote:

I quit reading responses when people started dividing by two and rounding up to 5.


quote:

4.5 rounded to 5 is all we came up with.


This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 12:06 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:08 am to
Why would you not end up at 5? Each number in the sequence is half of the previous number. Since we're dealing in whole numbers, 5 is the logical answer
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 12:09 am
Posted by teachingtiger
Member since Apr 2004
279 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:12 am to
quote:

Why would you not end up at 5? Each number in the sequence is half of the other number. Since we're dealing in whole numbers, 5 is the logical answer



I just seriously doubt that a 4th grade teacher in September of a school year is giving place value puzzles that include the division of numbers that require subsequent rounding.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35460 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:15 am to
I don't know. I'm drunk as shite and I got 5 so that's what I'm going with.


frick maths
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:21 am to
quote:

I am a five digit number



quote:

What number am I? ___ ___ , ___ ___ ___



Why have 90% of the answers in here not paid attention to this?
Posted by Pectus
Internet
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:22 am to
Because the first part makes no sense
Posted by teachingtiger
Member since Apr 2004
279 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:43 am to
quote:

Because the first part makes no sense




And because we have no idea what skills this set of students is familiar with. There are a lot of correct answers in this thread, but not all apply to a typical 4th grader's ability level.

If this is an advanced group, I could see the 9/2=4.5 rounded to 5 being valid.

Can't wait to see the actual answer.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 12:46 am
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:34 am to
32,781
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 2:05 am to
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Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 2:09 am to
66,782 would be my guess. Don't know if someone has already said this, but I'm not about to read through 7 pages.

To me the first part pattern should be as follows:

...2, 3, 6, 9, 18, 36, 54, 108, 162...

The next number is 3 times 2 numbers prior. So 6=2x3, 9=3x3, 18=6x3, 36=9x3, 54=18x3...so on and so on i don't know tho, that's the best I got. I'm certain the other 4 numbers are correct tho.

ETA: And of course you could go infinitely beyond 2, but I'm not about to frick with all those decimals
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 2:11 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34956 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:05 am to
quote:

66,782


After much deliberation, I'm going with this.

I also conclude that this is a fricked up question, particularly for a 4th grade student, and that there are substantially better ways to teach the materials that the problem in the OP attempts to cover.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16751 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:22 am to
I'm thinking that this isn't a "teaching" problem, but more of a bonus to see how well the kid is doing. Common core is a more complex math than we are used too. Is it different? Yes. Is it doing our kids a disservice? No. We need to keep up with the rest of the world.
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