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re: Pres. Obama's Speech This Morning... We're still going after Assad.

Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:38 am to
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This is a September 4, 2014 opionion piece from Aljazeera America. I found it will trying to research about the dynamics of different groups in Syria and the ME. I found it interesting.

"As an alternative to razing Assad’s Ba’athist regime, the White House has long touted a transition model similar to Yemen, whereby the government would be left largely intact but Assad would be forced to resign. This is also a bad idea. Assad has served, however inefficiently, as a reformer — or at least as a bulwark against the more aggressive elements of the “deep state,” such as the mukhabarat (intelligence services) and shabiha (pro-government civilian militias). Hence, if Assad was removed, while leaving much of his government in place, we could expect a similar outcome in Syria as in post-Mubarak Egypt: The worst elements of the regime would rise up to fill the vacuum, undermining any transitional government and erasing even the modest reforms instituted under the longstanding ruler. Today, Egyptian leader Abdel Fatah El Sisi is a more repressive despot than Mubarak ever was. Similarly, someone more tyrannical than Assad could as easily replace him from within the Ba’athist party apparatus."
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2081 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Are a destabilizing force, not a stabilizing force, in the Middle East


That's the whole point.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:04 pm to
Obama is an idiot.

All you idiot progressives / liberals / in reality commie pinkos who voted for this dummy should be imprisoned for lack of intelligence.

I been saying for years that liberal is another name for dumb azz.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:11 pm to
The continued targeting of Assad was really my only beef with the last speech he made a couple weeks ago. I don't understand why he is trying to oust his only real ally in this whole situation. I guess Assad made him look bad so he's got some kind of score to settle with him.

When will we learn that sometimes the world needs evil people to keep things in balance (especially in the ME)?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90621 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:38 pm to
So he is using ISIS as the excuse to bomb Syria in order to remove Assad? Right out of the Bush playbook
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:20 pm to
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All you idiot progressives / liberals / in reality commie pinkos who voted for this dummy should be imprisoned for lack of intelligence.


Dad?
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 2:40 pm to
This Strategy is Meant only to Get Dems through the Next election cycle with the Least amount of Damage.

Show Movement, Slow Movement, Lose at a Slow Pace.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:33 pm to
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This Strategy is Meant only to Get Dems through the Next election cycle with the Least amount of Damage.

Show Movement, Slow Movement, Lose at a Slow Pace.


Are you Brit Hume? If so, Tony Snow's hair was always a bit more coiffed.

To any rational person, it does appear Barry wants to lose at a slow pace. That was Billy Jeff's MO with Saddam Hussein. It maximized the opportunity for weak dick speachifying, but keeps the overall saber-rattling down to an acceptable level to keep the true tree worshipers on the reservation. It's just who they are. It's in their nature. Dems make a mess and then expect Repubs to take out the trash.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:40 pm to
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efforts to arm the Syrian rebels


what could go wrong?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:27 pm to
My god, has this administration learned nothing what happens when you remove a dictator in the Mideast? Just who the frick is going to run Syria if they get assad? They're doing the same shite they criticized bush by going after Assad.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:33 am to
No dingbat.

Saddam had a cease fire agreement he didn't live up to which meant he crossed the FRICKIN RED LINE you dumbazz liberal.
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