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re: Pres. Obama's Speech This Morning... We're still going after Assad.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:38 am to kingbob
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:38 am to kingbob
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This is a September 4, 2014 opionion piece from Aljazeera America. I found it will trying to research about the dynamics of different groups in Syria and the ME. I found it interesting.
"As an alternative to razing Assad’s Ba’athist regime, the White House has long touted a transition model similar to Yemen, whereby the government would be left largely intact but Assad would be forced to resign. This is also a bad idea. Assad has served, however inefficiently, as a reformer — or at least as a bulwark against the more aggressive elements of the “deep state,” such as the mukhabarat (intelligence services) and shabiha (pro-government civilian militias). Hence, if Assad was removed, while leaving much of his government in place, we could expect a similar outcome in Syria as in post-Mubarak Egypt: The worst elements of the regime would rise up to fill the vacuum, undermining any transitional government and erasing even the modest reforms instituted under the longstanding ruler. Today, Egyptian leader Abdel Fatah El Sisi is a more repressive despot than Mubarak ever was. Similarly, someone more tyrannical than Assad could as easily replace him from within the Ba’athist party apparatus."
This is a September 4, 2014 opionion piece from Aljazeera America. I found it will trying to research about the dynamics of different groups in Syria and the ME. I found it interesting.
"As an alternative to razing Assad’s Ba’athist regime, the White House has long touted a transition model similar to Yemen, whereby the government would be left largely intact but Assad would be forced to resign. This is also a bad idea. Assad has served, however inefficiently, as a reformer — or at least as a bulwark against the more aggressive elements of the “deep state,” such as the mukhabarat (intelligence services) and shabiha (pro-government civilian militias). Hence, if Assad was removed, while leaving much of his government in place, we could expect a similar outcome in Syria as in post-Mubarak Egypt: The worst elements of the regime would rise up to fill the vacuum, undermining any transitional government and erasing even the modest reforms instituted under the longstanding ruler. Today, Egyptian leader Abdel Fatah El Sisi is a more repressive despot than Mubarak ever was. Similarly, someone more tyrannical than Assad could as easily replace him from within the Ba’athist party apparatus."
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:03 pm to kingbob
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Are a destabilizing force, not a stabilizing force, in the Middle East
That's the whole point.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:04 pm to CherryGarciaMan
Obama is an idiot.
All you idiot progressives / liberals / in reality commie pinkos who voted for this dummy should be imprisoned for lack of intelligence.
I been saying for years that liberal is another name for dumb azz.
All you idiot progressives / liberals / in reality commie pinkos who voted for this dummy should be imprisoned for lack of intelligence.
I been saying for years that liberal is another name for dumb azz.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:11 pm to FT
The continued targeting of Assad was really my only beef with the last speech he made a couple weeks ago. I don't understand why he is trying to oust his only real ally in this whole situation. I guess Assad made him look bad so he's got some kind of score to settle with him.
When will we learn that sometimes the world needs evil people to keep things in balance (especially in the ME)?
When will we learn that sometimes the world needs evil people to keep things in balance (especially in the ME)?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:38 pm to FT
So he is using ISIS as the excuse to bomb Syria in order to remove Assad? Right out of the Bush playbook
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:20 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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All you idiot progressives / liberals / in reality commie pinkos who voted for this dummy should be imprisoned for lack of intelligence.
Dad?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 2:40 pm to Stingray
This Strategy is Meant only to Get Dems through the Next election cycle with the Least amount of Damage.
Show Movement, Slow Movement, Lose at a Slow Pace.
Show Movement, Slow Movement, Lose at a Slow Pace.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:33 pm to 11thACR
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This Strategy is Meant only to Get Dems through the Next election cycle with the Least amount of Damage.
Show Movement, Slow Movement, Lose at a Slow Pace.
Are you Brit Hume? If so, Tony Snow's hair was always a bit more coiffed.
To any rational person, it does appear Barry wants to lose at a slow pace. That was Billy Jeff's MO with Saddam Hussein. It maximized the opportunity for weak dick speachifying, but keeps the overall saber-rattling down to an acceptable level to keep the true tree worshipers on the reservation. It's just who they are. It's in their nature. Dems make a mess and then expect Repubs to take out the trash.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:40 pm to FT
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efforts to arm the Syrian rebels
what could go wrong?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:27 pm to FT
My god, has this administration learned nothing what happens when you remove a dictator in the Mideast? Just who the frick is going to run Syria if they get assad? They're doing the same shite they criticized bush by going after Assad.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 12:33 am to deltaland
No dingbat.
Saddam had a cease fire agreement he didn't live up to which meant he crossed the FRICKIN RED LINE you dumbazz liberal.
Saddam had a cease fire agreement he didn't live up to which meant he crossed the FRICKIN RED LINE you dumbazz liberal.
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