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re: "Harris did it vs. a prevent defense"

Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:41 pm to
Throwing it deeps against prevent is prolly the hardest throw to make. People that say that in regards to the Harris throws are idiots that assume everything is easier in prevent.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:41 pm to
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They were not playing prevent his first 2 drives.

Well why does everyone keep saying it then?
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:42 pm to
The title of this thread, if it were to make the most sense, would be:

"Harris did it vs. a shitty pass defense"

Which he did. But Miles' playcalling demands and Jennings' limitations prevented the exploitation of MSU's biggest weakness from happening until it was too late.

Coaching Grade: F-minus
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:43 pm to
Who completes passes over the top of a prevent D?

Anyways the offense sure did look like a Cam Cameron offense when Harris was in. Multiple vertical completions, check down to the RB coming out of the backfield. That pass to Dural on what looked like a deep comeback between 2 DBs playing zone.

I might be the only LSU fan on the planet whose excitement for the future of the skill players on offense (Harris, Dupre, Fournette, Williams) overshadowed the loss to Miss St.

Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:43 pm to
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That's the point. He wasn't making short throws


He was 6/9. 2 underneath throws to Darrel Williams. 1 underneath throw to Quinn. Then he threw the long jump-ball to Dupre for the touchdown. The 25-yarder to Dural (very impressive throw). The 30ish harder to Dupre for 6 (also on the money).
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:44 pm to
Harris was coming in regardless of AJ
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:44 pm to
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Anyways the offense sure did look like a Cam Cameron offense when Harris was in. Multiple vertical completions, check down to the RB coming out of the backfield. That pass to Dural on what looked like a deep comeback between 2 DBs playing zone.



that is the cam cameron offense. we ran 2 WR formations last year to have extra protection for mett.
Posted by 5Alive
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:45 pm to
They were not in a prevent. It's was their first team D in. The only time they were in prevent was the last series.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:46 pm to
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I just want the coaches to decide who is the better QB going forward...stick to it. You need reps not two guys getting jerked in and out. Make a call and stay with it.
Um, that's exactly what they've been doing?
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2153 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:46 pm to
My question aside from growing pains that come with inexperience would be, can his 6'3" 180lb frame hold up against SEC DLines pouncing on it? Jennings took some shots that I question B Harris could take...
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:47 pm to
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They were not in a prevent. It's was their first team D in.
Wat
quote:

The only time they were in prevent was the last series.
Double wat
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 7:48 pm
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:50 pm to
Look where he threw it from. That's a 30 yard out from the middle of the field that he made look like a bubble screen

Posted by 5Alive
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:51 pm to
Do I have to go into more detail for u?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:51 pm to
Everyone knows 1st string defenses aren't allowed to play prevent.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:52 pm to
Good point IMO but I wonder if Moo had backups in? That'd be a better indication.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:53 pm to
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That's a 30 yard out from the middle of the field that he made look like a bubble screen


It was there in a hurry and on the money.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56538 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:54 pm to
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Posted by Powerman Umm...isn't a prevent defense supposed to prevent exactly the type of plays that he was making? I don't understand this argument.


If you can't acknowledge that Harris didn't face the same defense that Jennings did, then you aren't being honest.

The argument is that he excelled with his opportunity...and Jennings certainly couldn't have done the same Saturday night.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:57 pm to
The fact is that Harris did it. Jennings was missing open receivers badly. They should've yanked him sooner IMO.
Posted by DBeaux225
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:58 pm to
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I know its in garbage time, but I am excited about his potential.


That was against the first team D
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24035 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:58 pm to
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Umm...isn't a prevent defense supposed to prevent exactly the type of plays that he was making?


Hey, you guys remember when the 2002 team, coached by someone other than Les Miles, managed to lose a game against Arkansas by switching to the prevent at the end?

Prevent defenses don't work sometimes, and it definitely was way different than what Jennings had been seeing all game.
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